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NY motorcyclist dies on ride protesting helmet law
Associated Press ^ | July 3, 2011

Posted on 07/03/2011 11:50:34 AM PDT by Free ThinkerNY

ONONDAGA, N.Y. (AP) -- Police say a motorcyclist participating in a protest ride against helmet laws in upstate New York died after he flipped over the bike's handlebars and hit his head on the pavement.

The accident happened Saturday afternoon in the town of Onondaga, in central New York near Syracuse.

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To: OldPossum

One wonders if motorcycles were quiet, how many would be sold?

Quite a few actually Honda’s ,Yamaha’s,, Kawasaki’s, BMW, Triumph, Most all are quiet with very few using after market mufflers or straight pipes.

Of course most of them sound like crap with straight pipes, and even many Harleys have stock quiet pipes.

I have had both, Loud pipes and quiet. If you are riding in a group the loud pipes are a great help in letting you know when someone is slowing down, but the noise gets to you after a while. Loud pipes are not near the problem as people with loud pipes keep showing off with them./


41 posted on 07/03/2011 3:24:39 PM PDT by Venturer
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To: Free ThinkerNY

As my eldest might remark: He chose to be an organ donor !

(My eldest is an EMT.)

Not germane to this thread: On Friday, 7/1 several older bikers were killed in Mt. Bethel, PA. All veterans they were on a tribute ride for a deceased member. News reports have them colliding head on with a pickup truck. RIP and thank you for your service, gentlemen. >PS


42 posted on 07/03/2011 3:28:28 PM PDT by PiperShade
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To: Amberdawn
Nooooooo
I read the article. It states that his bike FISHTAILED.
There is no way on this earth that a motorcycle will fishtail using the front brake alone. He was riding a 1983 Harley Davidson,(The model was not mentioned) 1983 Harley Davidson's have a single piston rear brake and a long wheelbase. Plus the 1983 Harley Davidson (all models) did not have what I would call the best front brakes in the world. The only way he could have locked up the front brake is if he hit an oil patch or loose pea gravel. But the story did not mention anything about oil or gravel. So in my very experienced opinion, Mr Contos stomped on the rear brake and the bike fishtailed and threw him off. Motorcyclist call it high-siding. Don't believe me? Go to your local Flat Track or Speedway race and watch. Odds are real good you will see several "High-sides". Neither Flat Track or Speedway motorcycles have front brakes. (Speedway bikes do not have rear either) Locking the rear brake and “fishtailing” is pretty damn simple. Any village idiot can do it.

The front brake has up to 75% of a motorcycle's stopping power. That is why manufactures; put the largest and sometimes double brakes on the front wheel. That is why I put in the third fatal mistake this guy made. You know the answer to that one. "He was too good of a rider and just too too cool and macho to take the basic motorcycle riders class." If he had, he would have known this AND practiced proper braking.
As Bugs said, “What a Maroon”.

43 posted on 07/03/2011 3:32:10 PM PDT by Tupelo ( 2012 TEA PARTY or no party)
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To: Newtoidaho

“Most of the riders I see make a few common mistakes that I know, given the right set of circumstances, are going to get them killed.”

That there is what I call one of “The Basic Truths of the Universe.”

Back in the mid-to-late 70s, Cycle magazine ran an article on steering. They posited the theory that a lot of riders get killed because the instinctively try to “steer” out of immanent danger, thereby driving straight into it. It doesn’t make sense, but the steer right to go left method works on every bike I’ve owned. Darned hard to learn so it is instinctive...


44 posted on 07/03/2011 3:40:29 PM PDT by Peet (Leftists think personal liberty is so important it must be carefully rationed.)
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To: Free ThinkerNY

Darwin strikes again; may God comfort the family.


45 posted on 07/03/2011 5:37:53 PM PDT by JimRed (Excising a cancer before it kills us waters the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW AND FOREVER!)
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To: Tupelo

O.K.-I was going to say it’s pretty hard to go over the bars on the back brake. I was always taught to apply the back brake first, then the front. Thanks for the info.


46 posted on 07/03/2011 8:50:42 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: 60Gunner

I agree fully with your remark and stated that the stats show wearing a helmet improve your chances.Ive seen too many times though where a friend is creamed by a car whizzing thru an intersection or merging from the next lane and they failed to hear or see it do to the horseblinders cutting off their perephrial.

A high velocity crash is a high velocity crash and nothing can save you.


47 posted on 07/04/2011 10:28:52 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: 60Gunner

I agree fully with your remark and stated that the stats show wearing a helmet improve your chances.Ive seen too many times though where a friend is creamed by a car whizzing thru an intersection or merging from the next lane and they failed to hear or see it do to the horseblinders cutting off their perephrial.

A high velocity crash is a high velocity crash and nothing can save you.


48 posted on 07/04/2011 10:28:59 AM PDT by DeathBeforeDishonor1
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To: OldPossum

I don’t understand how motorcycles get away with making so much obnoxious noise.

If my car were as loud as a motorcycle, I’d get a ticket.


49 posted on 07/04/2011 2:21:00 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Amberdawn
“Loud pipes save lives”.

If motorcycles are so dangerous they need to disturb the peace to warn others, then motorcycles are impractical and should be banned.

50 posted on 07/04/2011 2:33:58 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: Age of Reason

No, inattentive DRIVERS are dangerous. Should we now ban cars?


51 posted on 07/04/2011 3:47:54 PM PDT by Amberdawn
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To: Age of Reason
I don’t understand how motorcycles get away with making so much obnoxious noise.

If my car were as loud as a motorcycle, I’d get a ticket.

I have wondered about this from the time I got my first drivers license. I know that those who ride bikes think that the noise is necessary (for their protection, you understand), but it makes no sense to me. Noise is noise and no one should be exempted from it.

52 posted on 07/04/2011 4:25:46 PM PDT by OldPossum
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To: OldPossum

My neighbor sold his monster truck for a Harley that’s twice as loud. Charming alarm clock in the morning.


53 posted on 07/04/2011 4:26:46 PM PDT by rintense (The GOP elite & friends can pound sand.)
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To: Amberdawn

Maybe automobile drivers should lean on their horns while they drive, so motorcycle riders can hear them coming (if they can hear anything, with the racket those bikes make).


54 posted on 07/04/2011 5:38:38 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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To: DeathBeforeDishonor1
I also agree with your concern about cars not paying attention. On the other hand, when you have this dude riding along at night on his badass black hog wearing his badass black leather, he makes it pretty hard for the average driver to see him.

I rode for about ten years, until a friend of mine died when he struck an elk while riding his hog at highway speed. Sold my Sportster the next day, and haven't bought one since. That was 25 years ago. I admit, though, that there's no more fun way to ride down a highway... a nice, dry, highway without another moving person, animal, or machine within twenty miles of me.

Having ridden, I submit that it must be said that since bikers choose to convey themselves on a machine that affords absolutely zero protection in a crash in which they are going to sustain far worse injuries, they logically must exercise more caution for their safety. Nobody put a gun to our heads and forced us to ride. It's our responsibility to watch out not only for ourselves, but also for the stupid maniac (four-wheeled and two-wheeled) that may not see us.

55 posted on 07/04/2011 7:52:38 PM PDT by 60Gunner (Ma'am, that is not a seizure. That is a dance move.)
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To: OldPossum
I say if they won't ban noisy motorcycles, then ban motorcycle helmets.
56 posted on 07/07/2011 5:45:12 PM PDT by Age of Reason
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