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AT6-TEXAN Question
Air Show ^ | June 19, 2011 | Vanity

Posted on 06/19/2011 2:51:42 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets

What is the purpose of the wire (not shown in illustration) that runs from the mast just in front of the cockpit to the top front of the vertical stabilizer?



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To: hoosierham

This morning I talked to a friend that actually flew SNJ’s durIng the late part of WWII. He also bought a few surplus BT-13’s after the war.

He told me that the SNJ’s he flew and the Bt-13’s were equipped with 2 channel HF transmitters, one channel on 3.1 MHz and one just above 7mhz. They only received on a tunable LF radio. In other words the control tower transmitted on a LF freq. while listening on the HF channels. He said normally they used the 3.1 MHz channel and control towers different LF freqs.

The LF receiver could also be used for range station navigation. So in this case the antenna was used as both a HF and LF antenna. That length of 3.1 or 7mhz antenna would be pretty inefficient for transmitting, but since it was for short range only it would not matter much.

Aircraft using HF for long range usually use a trailing wire antenna reeled out to 1/4 wavelength. For 7 MHz for instants this would be about 35 fe,et


21 posted on 06/21/2011 10:25:25 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: hoosierham

This morning I talked to a friend that actually flew SNJ’s durIng the late part of WWII. He also bought a few surplus BT-13’s after the war.

He told me that the SNJ’s he flew and the Bt-13’s were equipped with 2 channel HF transmitters, one channel on 3.1 MHz and one just above 7mhz. They only received on a tunable LF radio. In other words the control tower transmitted on a LF freq. while listening on the HF channels. He said normally they used the 3.1 MHz channel and control towers different LF freqs.

The LF receiver could also be used for range station navigation. So in this case the antenna was used as both a HF and LF antenna. That length of 3.1 or 7mhz antenna would be pretty inefficient for transmitting, but since it was for short range only it would not matter much.

Aircraft using HF for long range usually use a trailing wire antenna reeled out to 1/4 wavelength. For 7 MHz for instants this would be about 35 fe,et


22 posted on 06/21/2011 10:25:30 AM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: 04-Bravo; 1stFreedom; A_Conservative_Chinese; acehai; Aeronaut; af_vet_rr; AFreeBird; ...

aviation ping (wire thingy)


23 posted on 06/21/2011 10:30:39 AM PDT by raygun (http://bastiat.org/en/the_law DOT html)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

Radio aerial.


24 posted on 06/21/2011 10:32:09 AM PDT by Little Ray (Best Conservative in the Primary; AGAINST Obama in the General.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

ADF. Automatic Direction Finder. The wire combined with a hoop allowed for direction sensing to AM radio transmitters (commercial stations and radio nav stations). They are consider obsolete now, but I like them...easy to navigate with, reliable, cheap, and you can listen to the game (which is important)

http://www.aircraftspruce.com/catalog/pdf/AV-545.pdf


25 posted on 06/21/2011 11:54:35 AM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

http://www.avweb.com/news/avionics/183233-1.html

Good description of the puropose of the two antennas


26 posted on 06/21/2011 12:03:03 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

Years ago I would use ADF to find my way back to Oklahoma City from almost anywhere since 1520 KMOA had a very strong signal.

As you say ADF’s although still in use by some are now obsollete with the advent of GPS. But I still believe that flying a NDB approach is a good exercise for learning situational awarenes. You can train a monkey to fly the other follow the needle aproaches, but you actually have to think to fly a NDB approach.


27 posted on 06/21/2011 12:26:14 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

It’s for hanging wet flight suits out to dry.


28 posted on 06/21/2011 12:27:07 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
A line to dry the instructor's underpants after he had to wash them after flying with many of the students.

Or...

A 1/4 wave tuned HF radio antenna.

:)

29 posted on 06/21/2011 12:38:25 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX, remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: Okieshooter

KMOA.... Is KOMA... used to be “The Fifty Thousand Watt Country Music Blowtorch for the Great Southwest....”

Format may have changed.


30 posted on 06/21/2011 12:43:04 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX, remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: MindBender26

Not sure what format is now, but they have even changed call sign to KOKC.


31 posted on 06/21/2011 12:54:58 PM PDT by Okieshooter
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To: Okieshooter
Peasants!

When I worked (while in Army) evenings for KSWO in Lawton, we had to read tag lines for two commercials live.

“Bob at Big Bob's Used Cars says, “Buying a good used car is all about negotiating a good price, and we care what your wife thinks, so bring your wife down.... and we'll dicker!”

#2, “The best quality is at Cache Road Meat Market! Others may equal our low prices, but nobody can beat our meat.”

Try doing those live three times a night!

32 posted on 06/21/2011 1:19:28 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Forget AMEX, remember your Glock 27: Never Leave Home Without It!)
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To: taildragger

New Bronze Reno unlimited contender?

Cool


33 posted on 06/21/2011 1:45:11 PM PDT by hattend (Let's all meet Sarah at her last bus stop -- 1600 Pennsylvania Ave in Jan 2013)
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To: cripplecreek

Antenna for radio reception.


34 posted on 06/21/2011 4:24:48 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: EGPWS
C'mon out to Oshkosh for the EAA Airventure. (July)

It will be a dandy.

Featuring 100th anniversary of Naval Aviation.

35 posted on 06/21/2011 4:27:00 PM PDT by Northern Yankee (Where Liberty dwells, there is my Country. - Benjamin Franklin)
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To: Northern Yankee
C'mon out to Oshkosh for the EAA Airventure. (July) It will be a dandy.

I'd love to!

It would be my 12th outing to to the airshow and I STILL haven't seen everything!

One year I was working at Basler's for the airshow.

36 posted on 06/21/2011 4:33:45 PM PDT by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets
I think it's a clothesline used for drying pilot scarves.


37 posted on 06/21/2011 6:01:46 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Dead Dog

Best answer. Thanks. BTW, what were you doing with that redhead with the high heels, anyway?


38 posted on 06/21/2011 6:18:05 PM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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To: Lonesome in Massachussets

What...when? Please tell her to run, my wife is gonna kick her ass. :)


39 posted on 06/21/2011 8:24:28 PM PDT by Dead Dog
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To: Dead Dog

The redhead in the link.


40 posted on 06/22/2011 3:28:24 AM PDT by Lonesome in Massachussets (Somewhere in Kenya a village is missing its idiot)
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