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Japan: Big Mess (photo of completely destroyed 4th Floor of #4 Reactor Building at Fukushima Plant)
Japan Today ^ | 06/13/11

Posted on 06/12/2011 5:37:01 PM PDT by TigerLikesRooster

Big Mess

Damaged equipment and piping are shown on the fourth floor of the No. 4 reactor building at Fukushima Daiichi nuclear power plant in Okuma, Fukushima Prefecture, in this photo released Sunday by Tokyo Electric Power Co (TEPCO).

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Health/Medicine; Local News; Science
KEYWORDS: fukushima; hydrogenexplosion; radiation; reactor4
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To: maine yankee
You are about 25 years too late:

http://www.duskin.co.jp/fc/index.html

21 posted on 06/12/2011 8:44:45 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo (Sign of a good, decent FREEPER: Promoting your own GOP candidate & not disrupting threads of others')
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Yep, soon as they can get some lectricity hooked back up, they can turn the pumps on and get the whole thing going again.


22 posted on 06/12/2011 8:51:54 PM PDT by catnipman
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To: BigFinn

It’s bad, but it simply isn’t Chernyobl x 4. And the Pacific Ocean has some substantial dilution ability.


23 posted on 06/12/2011 8:54:23 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Razzz42
Do you know where your core is?

More like

Do you know where your cores are ?

Ground water radiation level spikes are not a good indicator that they do.

24 posted on 06/12/2011 11:20:20 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: justa-hairyape

” When that 40% burden comes to an end, manufacturing will return to America. Power will return to the producers. Regulations will be cut. Prosperity and jobs will return to America.”

Is that the reason we need all the cheap labor from south of the border ? Dream on ...Prosperity will only be for the rich and those who lived in poverty south of the border and will be granted amnesty , eventually .


25 posted on 06/13/2011 1:51:55 AM PDT by sushiman
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To: ransomnote; justa-hairyape

The Blown-up Version


26 posted on 06/13/2011 5:43:15 AM PDT by TigerLikesRooster (The way to crush the bourgeois is to grind them between the millstones of taxation and inflation)
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To: Razzz42

Wherever it is it has to be tracked down and found.


27 posted on 06/13/2011 5:45:57 AM PDT by bvw
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To: little jeremiah

There was another news article posted which indicated they had gotten people into the facility, to evaluate the piping for their plan to restore cooling to the spent fuel pool.

The piping was more severely damaged then they had expected, and so they are having to make a new plan which includes installing new plumbing. They had hoped to start this next month, but with the additional damage I haven’t seen a new schedule yet.

Of course, I kind of figure the reason the radiation is low enough to get into that building is that between all the water injection they are doing, and the rain they have had the past couple of months, all the particulate matter has been washed into the ground and groundwater. So it’s a “good-news, bad-news” type of thing.

That of course is just speculation on my part, but I presume that when the place exploded, some particulate matter from the fuel rods was displaced, just like in the building 3 spent fuel pool/hydrogen gas explosion.

I think there was another report that said they are finding someone significant strontium readings on the facility grounds; this was separate from the minute readings they were getting from the surrounding areas, but consistent with the disintegration of some fuel rod material. Again a bit of speculation on my part.


28 posted on 06/13/2011 5:52:09 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: TigerLikesRooster

I’m guessing they didn’t find the “guy” that some people were sure was sitting up there — I believe that was one of Gunderson’s speculations he later quietly dropped.


29 posted on 06/13/2011 5:53:32 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: justa-hairyape

All your cores are belong to us.

Or, All your cores are be raining on us.


30 posted on 06/13/2011 5:54:59 AM PDT by CharlesWayneCT
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To: CharlesWayneCT

Sure, just a dumpster or two of cleanup and some fresh paint and the facility tours can start.


31 posted on 06/13/2011 6:16:02 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Last Dakotan

Currency manipulation or closed markets: It all works the same way, has the same strategic goals and does the same thing to American manufacturers.

American manufacturers have been betrayed diplomatically, and that will change soon.


32 posted on 06/13/2011 12:44:02 PM PDT by helpfulresearcher (Bipartisanship: The PC Term for Collaboration with the Enemy)
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To: helpfulresearcher
American manufacturers have been betrayed diplomatically, and that will change soon.

How so? I'd like to share your optimism.

33 posted on 06/13/2011 1:06:26 PM PDT by Last Dakotan
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To: sushiman

Looks like you posted that to the wrong thread with an incorrect quote. Never typed what you quoted. Just letting you know.


34 posted on 06/13/2011 1:07:39 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Funny thing was, I really do not remember them reporting a real time explosion in building #4. When it happened it was just called a fire. A week or two later they called it an explosion. Must have been from Hydrogen released from nuclear material in the pools.


35 posted on 06/13/2011 1:10:45 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: CharlesWayneCT

If you really want to know what is happening to the melted cores of 1-3, suggest researching into what happens when you aggressively mix water and corium. No longer a nice slow flowing lava mass. It breaks down into a debri field.


36 posted on 06/13/2011 1:18:01 PM PDT by justa-hairyape
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To: Last Dakotan

You probably have a union to thank for that empty building.


37 posted on 06/13/2011 1:20:18 PM PDT by GOPJ (In times of universal deceit, telling the truth will be a revolutionary act. - - Orwell)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Wow! Looks like my basement. Well, not really. :-)

Lesson No 3 - venting hydrogen gas from fuel storage area is important, just as venting hydrogen gas from the reactor containment vessel is important.

Im assuming that this was a hydrogen explosion. Could be something else, but logic points to hydrogen gas. This does put the integrity of the fuel in the spent fuel pool in question though.


38 posted on 06/13/2011 1:24:51 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: Razzz42
Do you know where your core is?

If this is the 4th floor pictured, then the reactor containment and core are below. There was no fuel in the unit 4 reactor core - it was off line for maintenance and evaluation. The spent fuel pool is, I think, on this floor. They generally onload and offload fuel into the reactor from the top through a large access "lid". The crane removes the fuel, and then sets it down into the spent fuel pool on the same floor. Pretty efficient design providing a 45 foot tsunami doesn't wipe out all of your power supplies.

39 posted on 06/13/2011 1:31:18 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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To: TigerLikesRooster

Thanks for the “blown up” picture. Isn’t that the corner of the spent fuel pool in the lower left?


40 posted on 06/13/2011 1:32:47 PM PDT by meyer (We will not sit down and shut up.)
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