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Obama's Demand That Israel Return To 1967 Borders Is Similar To The Demands Of Mexican Reconquista
5/24/2011 | Laissez-Faire Capitalist

Posted on 05/24/2011 8:50:32 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist

To make this short, Obama has said that Israel should return to its 1967 borders. For example, Golan Heights was taken after Israel was attacked.

Mexican nationalists (both inside the U.S. and outside of it) and pressure groups that align themselves with them, believe that land taken from Mexico following a war between the U.S. and Mexico should be returned to Mexico or become a part of Mexico.

Will Obama say that the U.S's borders need to return to pre-1845 like he says that Israel's borders need to return to a 1967 status?

Israel gets aid and loans from the U.S., most of which they use to buy military arms from the U.S., so it appears to be an indirect transfer payment to military industrialists. Other countries get aid and loans from the U.S. and we don't come even close to meddling in their internal affairs like we do with Israel. Secondly, other countries loan the U.S. money. Do they meddle in our internal affairs like this? Would we let them do to the U.S. what is being done to Israel - pertaining to the meddling with their internal affairs?


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; History; Miscellaneous; Society
KEYWORDS: aliens; aztlan; chat; congress; elections; islam; israel; mexico; netanyahu; obama; wot

1 posted on 05/24/2011 8:50:36 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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What say you?


2 posted on 05/24/2011 8:51:29 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

baraq’s demand for Isreal to return to the ‘67 borders is a demand for Isreal to surrender.

but baraq is not a muslim. (sarcasm)


3 posted on 05/24/2011 8:55:25 AM PDT by Texas resident (Hunkered Down)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think the country of Yugoslavia, and the country of Czechoslovakia as well need to go back to borders of 1971. And we need to retake the Panama Canal! Hong Kong needs to go back to England, and the Muslims that moved to Dearborn, MI need to go back to where their parents lived in 1967.


4 posted on 05/24/2011 8:55:25 AM PDT by rovenstinez
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
I say...since slavery isn't a problem anymore, lets return to pre 1865 Constitutional law......
5 posted on 05/24/2011 8:56:14 AM PDT by rightwingextremist1776
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

The US needs to take additional land from Mexico; namely a 10 mile free-fire buffer zone along the border.


6 posted on 05/24/2011 8:58:45 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

I think that today’s so-called Mexicans should go back to Spain and leave Mexico-Tenochtitlan to the Nahua Aztec tribe, the Mexica.


7 posted on 05/24/2011 9:01:24 AM PDT by SkyDancer (I Believe In The Law Until It Interferes With Justice)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Reminds me of this gem.


8 posted on 05/24/2011 9:04:50 AM PDT by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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I am surprised that someone didn’t bring up Great Britain.


9 posted on 05/24/2011 9:12:49 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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I am surprised that someone didn’t bring up Great Britain.


10 posted on 05/24/2011 9:13:59 AM PDT by Laissez-faire capitalist
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
To make this short, Obama has said that Israel should return to its 1967 borders. For example, Golan Heights was taken after Israel was attacked.

One of the problems in all of this is that Israel launched the first strikes in the 1967 war (unlike the Yom Kippur war in 1973). There is an objectively valid case for saying that the territory Israel 'seized' in the 1967 war ws the result of a war of aggression, and in particular places like the Golan Heights changed hands not because Israel was attacked, but because Israel attacked.

The fact the Arab armies were massing on their borders, and the Arab air fleets were being armed with live weapons for their own first strike does not change the fact Israel actually struck first.

It also doesn't change the fact the pre-1967 boundaries of Israel were indefensible. Before 1967, they did not have the strategic depth to absorb the attack of their enemies armed with modern Soviet weapons. They either had to strike first or be annihilated.

Going back to the 1967 borders is suicide for Israel and absolutely counter to the idea of self-determination for the inhabitants of the disputed areas - where the current Israeli citizens outnumber the displaced Palestinians by a large margin.

11 posted on 05/24/2011 10:07:24 AM PDT by Phlyer
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Return Anatolia to the Greeks!

Return North Africa to the Berbers!

Return Europe to the Neanderthals!

Return Japan to the Ainu!

Return New Zealand to the Maori!


12 posted on 05/24/2011 10:15:32 AM PDT by Uncle Miltie (0bamanomics: Trickle Up Poverty.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist

Many or most of the borders around the world were drawn or set by the victors of the most recent war in any given location. And I think practically all of the Middle Eastern borders were drawn by the victors of WWI.

And except for the Arabs around Israel, the borders have been accepted for the most part. They’ve refused to accept those borders since the 1920s and have started and lost several wars in their refusal, resulting in several changes to the borders.

There is nothing at all unique or particularly wise about pointing out which borders were established by the most recent war.


13 posted on 05/24/2011 10:27:42 AM PDT by Will88
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
bibisborders
14 posted on 05/24/2011 10:41:39 AM PDT by FrankR (A people that values its privileges above its principles will soon lose both.)
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To: FrankR; Liz; indylindy; DoughtyOne; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; Tennessee Nana; ...
Thanks Frank.


15 posted on 05/24/2011 1:13:09 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas
Don't forget Neville Chamberland brought Europe “peace” when he talked the Czechoslovakian ’s to give up their defensive borders to the Germans(didnt Obama sell out the Czech's and Poles again couple of years ago?). And Obama has a peace prize he needs to earn.
16 posted on 05/24/2011 1:49:41 PM PDT by sickoflibs (If you pay zero Federal income taxes, don't say you are paying your 'fair share')
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To: sickoflibs; FrankR; Liz; indylindy; DoughtyOne; stephenjohnbanker; calcowgirl; Tennessee Nana
Don't forget Neville Chamberland brought Europe “peace” when he talked the Czechoslovakian ’s to give up their defensive borders to the Germans(didnt Obama sell out the Czech's and Poles again couple of years ago?). And Obama has a peace prize he needs to earn.

I haven't forgotten. The Reconquista movement, Palestinians, and Hitler have one thing in common.

"All I want is peace. Peace! Peace! A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France. ...


17 posted on 05/24/2011 3:10:08 PM PDT by ding_dong_daddy_from_dumas (Budget sins can be fixed. Amnesty is irreversible.)
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To: Laissez-faire capitalist
Obama's Demand That Israel Return To 1967 Borders Is Similar To The Demands Of Mexican Reconquista

What demand?

Israel is free to act as it wishes in this matter.

Other countries get aid and loans from the U.S. and we don't come even close to meddling in their internal affairs like we do with Israel.

What internal affairs?

Has Israel annexed all the territories already?

18 posted on 05/24/2011 3:29:06 PM PDT by x
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If the South couldn’t secede from the Union, I hardly see how Obama could give the Southwest away.

Besides, I don’t think he has the final say. Each of those states has their own government and I would think the buck stops with them.


19 posted on 05/24/2011 6:05:59 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead.)
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” I haven’t forgotten. The Reconquista movement, Palestinians, and Hitler have one thing in common.

“All I want is peace. Peace! Peace! A little piece of Poland, a little piece of France. ... “

A piece of your arm....a piece of your leg.

Maybe just a pound of flesh?


20 posted on 05/25/2011 12:24:45 PM PDT by stephenjohnbanker (God, family, country, mom, apple pie, the girl next door and a Ford F250 to pull my boat.)
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