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Forgeries in the Bible's New Testament?
Discovery News ^ | 5-18-2011 | Rosella Lorenzi

Posted on 05/19/2011 11:50:25 AM PDT by Renfield

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To: Southside_Chicago_Republican
I’m sure this guy knows that, and is just out to deceive the gullible

And sell his book.

21 posted on 05/19/2011 12:25:14 PM PDT by trad_anglican
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To: Renfield
Forged: Writing in the Name of G-d

One would think he might direct his attention to Uncle Mo's stuff.

ML/NJ

22 posted on 05/19/2011 12:26:57 PM PDT by ml/nj
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To: Renfield
Another Dan Brown wannabe.

And Dan Brown is a wannabe.

23 posted on 05/19/2011 12:27:29 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum (Islamophobia: The fear of offending Muslims because they are prone to violence.)
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To: Renfield
Is this the Da Vinci Code for today?
24 posted on 05/19/2011 12:27:46 PM PDT by stevem
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To: Persevero

LOL....no cause the devil has no creativity, he has nothing new to add. It’s just the same old, same old. The bible is a fairy tale, the bible has a lot of untruths. There was never a real Jesus. Jesus was never hung on a cross. Jesus never rose from the dead, Mary was not miraculously impregnated(which always just kills me, seeing that man can do artificial insemination but, some don’t think God can)....blah...blah....blah.


25 posted on 05/19/2011 12:35:20 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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To: Renfield
Written by Bart Ehrman...

Stopped reading there.
26 posted on 05/19/2011 12:46:29 PM PDT by Carpe Cerevisi
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To: seowulf

You’ve got that right! I’m sure they believe Paul could not possibly have authored Romans 1.


27 posted on 05/19/2011 1:10:55 PM PDT by Waryone (RINOs, Elites, and Socialists - on the endangered list, soon to become extinct.)
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To: Renfield
Unlike Paul, Peter, a fisherman raised in rural Palestine, was most certainly illiterate. So was the Apostle John, who could have not written the Gospel bearing his name, said Ehrman.

Oh come on, Professor Scholar Man. Can you say "amanuensis"? I didn't think so.

28 posted on 05/19/2011 1:12:06 PM PDT by Constitutionalist Conservative (Two blogs for the price of none!)
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To: Renfield

Another interesting book, “Biblical Nonsense: A Review of the Bible for Doubting Christians,” by Jason Long. Primarily regarding the Old Testament. Makes one wonder how anyone could possibly still believe the mythologies conjured up 4000 years ago.


29 posted on 05/19/2011 1:39:59 PM PDT by csuzieque
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To: csuzieque

These sorts of intellectual fistfights have been going on among biblical scholars since long before the days of the LXX. As with sausage making, they are best not conducted in front of the unwashed Christian masses. (Jewish scholars, OTOH, will go round and round on this stuff ‘till the cows come home.)

For garden-variety Christians, happy in their pre-adolescent Sunday School understanding of how the 2,000 year old Kerygma was carried forth to us: Please ignore.


30 posted on 05/19/2011 2:43:21 PM PDT by QBFimi (When gunpowder speaks, beasts listen.)
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To: MsLady

“LOL....no cause the devil has no creativity, he has nothing new to add. It’s just the same old, same old. The bible is a fairy tale, the bible has a lot of untruths. There was never a real Jesus. Jesus was never hung on a cross. Jesus never rose from the dead, Mary was not miraculously impregnated(which always just kills me, seeing that man can do artificial insemination but, some don’t think God can)....blah...blah....blah.”

in other words, “Yea, hath God said?” - which is what Satan asked Eve in the garden before the Fall.


31 posted on 05/19/2011 2:58:02 PM PDT by Persevero (Can not wait for 2012)
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To: Pontiac

“Mark is the oldest and probably the only gospel to have been written by a contemporary of Jesus and also a witness to some of the events. “


That’s what they told me in college in the 80s. Now, I’m hearing in my Bible study group that new scholarship indicates that the New Testament is in the correct order after all, with Matthew being the first to be written. Also, in college, my professor said John was supposedly written long after the others, like a generation or two. Now, scholars are taking that back, too.

Why? I don’t know. I’m just standing by, with popcorn.


32 posted on 05/19/2011 3:15:34 PM PDT by married21 (As for me and my house, we will serve the Lord.)
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To: Renfield

2 Timothy 3:13 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.


33 posted on 05/19/2011 3:17:05 PM PDT by PoloSec ( Believe how that Christ died for our sins, was buried and rose again for our justification)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

While most of the West is decidedly Christian, Christianity itself isn’t Western.


34 posted on 05/19/2011 3:17:54 PM PDT by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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Thanks Renfield.

I'd be amazed if anyone were surprised by the fact that, in antiquity, writers wrote under well-known pen-names, and that includes the writers of most (or all) of the Gospels. A well-known example from the Middle Ages is the "Donation of Constantine" forgery, hoaxed as a supporting argument to get a French king to sign documents that he and his heirs and assigns forever were subservient to the Pope.

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35 posted on 05/19/2011 3:20:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: Persevero

Yep, more or less!!! He just rephrases it, repackages it, but, it’s still just the same old tired cr*p.


36 posted on 05/19/2011 3:22:32 PM PDT by MsLady (Be the kind of woman that when you get up in the morning, the devil says, "Oh crap, she's UP !!")
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Ping to heresy in article


37 posted on 05/19/2011 3:23:12 PM PDT by xzins (Retired Army Chaplain & proud of it: Truly Supporting the Troops means praying for their Victory!)
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Zul-Qarnain - What is the argument?
by Jochen Katz
I have never claimed that Zul-Qarnain *is* the historical Alexander the Great. I don't know why your move to agree with me in this is considered a rebuttal... The argument is then that the Qur'anic story is clearly taken from the legends about Alexander. There are many many details of the Qur'an account which are nearly verbatim to be found in the Alexander legends. Conclusion: Zul-Qarnain clearly is the Alexander the Great of the legend stories. And because the Qur'an presents the material from the legends as if this were history, it shows that Muhammad could not distinguish between legends and history when he incorporated this material in the Qur'an. This is evidence that the Qur'an is not of divine origin.

38 posted on 05/19/2011 3:28:04 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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Evil doers have been intent on shredding God’s truth with their rubber teeth from the beginning in the Garden.

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39 posted on 05/19/2011 3:31:21 PM PDT by Quix (Times are a changin' INSURE you have believed in your heart & confessed Jesus as Lord Come NtheFlesh)
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