In case you accidentally find a fact.
Posted on 04/02/2011 12:04:41 AM PDT by iowamark
...Baker, Mallory and Townsend were field hands who — like hundreds of other local slaves — had been pressed into service by the Confederates, compelled to build an artillery emplacement. They labored beneath the banner of the 115th Virginia Militia, a blue flag bearing a motto in golden letters: “Give me liberty or give me death.”
After a week or so of this, they learned some deeply unsettling news. Their master, a rebel colonel named Charles Mallory, was planning to send them even farther from home, to help build fortifications in North Carolina. That was when the three slaves decided to leave the Confederacy and try their luck, just across the water, with the Union...
...“I intend to hold them,” Butler said.
“Do you mean, then, to set aside your constitutional obligation to return them?”
Even the dour Butler must have found it hard to suppress a smile. This was, of course, a question he had expected. And he had prepared what he thought was a fairly clever answer.
“I mean to take Virginia at her word,” he said. “I am under no constitutional obligations to a foreign country, which Virginia now claims to be.”
“But you say we cannot secede,” Cary retorted, “and so you cannot consistently detain the Negroes.”
“But you say you have seceded,” Butler said, “so you cannot consistently claim them. I shall hold these Negroes as contraband of war, since they are engaged in the construction of your battery and are claimed as your property.”
Ever the diligent litigator, Butler had been reading up on his military law. In time of war, he knew, a commander had a right to seize any enemy property that was being used for hostile purposes. The three fugitive slaves, before their escape, were helping build a Confederate gun emplacement...
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No one has to hold FRNs to pay taxes.
*Sigh* Yeah I guess I’m just not as smart as you. *sigh*.
Why? Because I didn't drink the liberal PC Kool Aid like you did?
We do? How much exactly? Or is that another fact you're allergic to?
The FED sprang out of FASCIST ROOTS.
The FED and her defenders are FASCISTS.
And you are allergic to denying this fact, FFDRentBoyToady.
As I said early, the main reasons were the the ex-slaves had no money with which to move and, more importantly, the Black Codes passed to protect the plantation owners labor forced them to either sign labor contracts for the year or be arrested as vagrants who would then be rented out to the plantations.
There was still an economic bond there admit it or not.
Yeah, it was called debt peonage, with the local criminal justice system around to enforce it.
I don't believe Hamilton and Washington were fascists when they helped create the first American central bank in 1791.
Let me know if you ever find the facts about tax money that goes to the Fed for government borrowing.
You would be the last person I would ask due to your inability to be a decent person.
Fascist FED loving rentboy.
Don't ask me anything, go find some facts on your own. And be sure to check with your doctor, I'm afraid you've got some bad drug interactions going on.
Your insults and uncalled for taunts speak to your inability to interact with dignity or respect of others.
Go back to your play room, FED rentboy.
Thank you for cutting through to the heart of the post-Civil War slavery issue.
In order for the neo-confeds to defend their failed rebellion they have to either defend the south’s “Particular Institution” or attempt to rationalize it away. Since there is no way to defend the indefensible short of declaring your overt racism of the black man, most neo-confeds lean towards the latter.
As you can see in #22, all of recorded history is incorrect and the southern black slave really was in a state approaching nirvana /sarc. Again in #50 we find moral equivocating at play. Then again @ #52 I’m surprised the poster didn’t attempt to rationalize that the slave actually whipped himself as an expression of his joy at being offered the opportunity to be a slave.
And they do this with a straight face.
Please, that is not the point.
I do understand that I can be blunt.
But I have always loved ancient history.
And its lessons are rarely taught these days.
;)
In case you accidentally find a fact.
The last resort of the illiterate. Pictures.
Why no emigrant aid societies/organizations ala Kansas?
and, more importantly, the Black Codes passed to protect the plantation owners labor forced them to either sign labor contracts for the year or be arrested as vagrants who would then be rented out to the plantations.
Cotton was the largest US export until 1937. Considering this fact, I'd say more than just the plantation owners interests were being protected here.
We still have slavery. Blacks still believe they cannot make it without the white man giving them something. The Democratic Party still has them firmly by the short and curlies. Any black that refuses to go along is put down and put out.
What, do you think that the New England Emigrant Aid Society was a charity that paid for people to come west? It did organize groups and obtained some group discounts, but the emigrants paid their own way.
Considering this fact, I'd say more than just the plantation owners interests were being protected here.
Yes, indeed their was. A great deal of the southern economy relied on not losing control of their former slave labor force.
I didn't until they revealed it was a money losing enterprise. Wonder why they kept funding a money pit? After the war, who was paying for all the teachers and ancillary personnel to head South (outside of The Freedmen's Bureau work)? Private donations that funded various groups, that's who! Yet, no money available to assist the newly freed slaves to relocate if they chose to do so. Hmmmm. All those compassionate abolitionists couldn't fund a single charity to assist with relocation? Sounds kinda fishy to me.
It did organize groups and obtained some group discounts, but the emigrants paid their own way.
Here's a funny story about one of the men: When his group reached Kansas and there were no houses already built and ready to move into, he turned around and went back to New England! LOL!
Yes, indeed their was. A great deal of the southern economy relied on not losing control of their former slave labor force.
And the Southern economy, more specifically, cotton profits, meant everything to the newly minted Fedzilla. It's why they invaded Dixie in the first place. Had to have the revenue to pay for all their projects. When the South seceded how in the world was the North going to pay for all of their "projects" sans cotton money? Heaven forbid they tax themselves to do so! They didn't mind a tax to basically slaughter an entire generation, but pay for their own projects - not a chance!
Now, if the freedmen weren't kept in the South to pick the cotton, where was the labor force to come from? We're talking about manual farm labor that required a workforce of millions of individuals to accomplish the task. Remember, cotton was the number one US export until 1937. The decision was made to keep the newly freed slaves in the South b/c "it was their home." True, but I understand labor needs and that was the driving factor.
The Freedman's Bureau did relocate around 8 - 10 thousand feedmen for labor purposes in the North. IIRC, they were used as strike breakers.
I didn't until they revealed it was a money losing enterprise. Wonder why they kept funding a money pit? After the war, who was paying for all the teachers and ancillary personnel to head South (outside of The Freedmen's Bureau work)? Private donations that funded various groups, that's who! Yet, no money available to assist the newly freed slaves to relocate if they chose to do so. Hmmmm. All those compassionate abolitionists couldn't fund a single charity to assist with relocation? Sounds kinda fishy to me.
It did organize groups and obtained some group discounts, but the emigrants paid their own way.
Here's a funny story about one of the men: When his group reached Kansas and there were no houses already built and ready to move into, he turned around and went back to New England! LOL!
Yes, indeed their was. A great deal of the southern economy relied on not losing control of their former slave labor force.
And the Southern economy, more specifically, cotton profits, meant everything to the newly minted Fedzilla. It's why they invaded Dixie in the first place. Had to have the revenue to pay for all their projects. When the South seceded how in the world was the North going to pay for all of their "projects" sans cotton money? Heaven forbid they tax themselves to do so! They didn't mind a tax to basically slaughter an entire generation, but pay for their own projects - not a chance!
Now, if the freedmen weren't kept in the South to pick the cotton, where was the labor force to come from? We're talking about manual farm labor that required a workforce of millions of individuals to accomplish the task. Remember, cotton was the number one US export until 1937. The decision was made to keep the newly freed slaves in the South b/c "it was their home." True, but I understand labor needs and that was the driving factor.
The Freedman's Bureau did relocate around 8 - 10 thousand feedmen for labor purposes in the North. IIRC, they were used as strike breakers.
Good grief! I’m eating up bandwidth here. Hope it doesn’t post again:)
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