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West being suckered by Arab League
QMI Agency ^ | March 26, 2011 | Salim Mansur

Posted on 03/26/2011 6:00:17 AM PDT by rickmichaels

The Libyan mission Operation Odyssey Dawn, under UN authority, is a dog's breakfast and nothing good is going to come out of it.

The conniving elite of the Arab League has snookered an ever-ready coalition of western powers to do its bidding. And the western powers (Britain, France, the U.S. and Canada dutifully in tow), with their sights protectively fixed on oil-rich desert patches of the Middle East and North Africa, needed little urging to respond.

This operation, as repeatedly broadcast by coalition leaders, is to save Libyan lives.

Britain's Foreign Secretary William Hague, for instance, announced in Parliament:

"Our message to the Gadhafi regime is that the international community will not stand by and watch them kill civilians, a view this House overwhelmingly endorsed this week. To his forces we say that if they continue to take part in Gadhafi's war against his own people, they will continue to face the military force of the coalition, and if they commit crimes against Libyan people they will be held to account."

Strong words, but what is the true nature of Hague's message to the attentive international community?

It is plain and simple: The lives of Arabs and non-Arabs in the region whose countries are members of the league, but lack oil wealth — Yemen, Bahrain, Darfur within Sudan, etc. — are cheap, inconsequential and certainly not worth the expenditure needed to save them from their respective despots.

Similarly, the lives of the poor, beaten and killed by despots — kith and kin of Libya's Gadhafi — in places like Zimbabwe, North Korea and Myanmar, or where democracy movements are openly crushed as in Iran and China, are not worth a dime beyond the merely ritual official regrets announced by western governments. Neither are the lives of people killed by terrorist bombings as in Israel and India.

League members are a collection of authoritarian states where widespread violations of human rights are notoriously routine.

There is no instance in the league's 66-year history when its members were sufficiently moved by evidence before them — even genocide as in the case of Saddam Hussein's repeated massacre of Kurds and Iraqi Shiites — to protect the abused.

The Libyan situation offered the league an opportunity to redeem its dishonourable record.

Arab states possess military resources that they could have deployed as a league operation and, in keeping with the UN principle of "responsibility to protect," placed in effect a no-fly zone over Libyan air space to save civilians and punish Gadhafi.

But the unwillingness of the league to intervene in Libya, or anywhere else in the Arab world — save for its unrelenting hostility towards Israel — is related to the fear of establishing a precedent among its members that nobody wants.

However, a precedent of a sort with unsavoury consequences for the future has been established. The league has talked the UN and western powers into doing its bidding without assuming any responsibility for consequences it finds politically distasteful or unpopular.

Middle Eastern culture of bargains made in bazaars is well known and in such haggles, sellers regularly find happily deluded suckers. The league made a winning bargain over Libya, and suckers of those left to pick up the bill and take the blame.


TOPICS: Conspiracy
KEYWORDS: 0bamasfault; arableague; libya; muslimcancer; obamasfault; operationodysseydawn; salimmansur; samanthapower; waronterror

1 posted on 03/26/2011 6:00:18 AM PDT by rickmichaels
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To: rickmichaels

This is an editorial in the Toronto Sun and should be posted in News/Activism forum Editorials, not chat.


2 posted on 03/26/2011 6:16:32 AM PDT by nuconvert ( Khomeini promised change too // Hail, Chairman O)
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To: rickmichaels

On the contrary. This is what Obama planned for all along.

He immediately sent Code Pink, Ayers and Dohrn, and other America haters to the middle east to begin their agitating on the social networks.

Much like the BP spill that became an crisis to exploit, Tunisia became the catalyst for the uprising to begin in Egypt. This was long planned and the muslim brotherhood was always in the plan.


3 posted on 03/26/2011 6:19:44 AM PDT by Carley (WISCONSIN STREET NO DIFFERENT THAN THE ARAB STREET. UGLY AND VIOLENT)
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To: rickmichaels

UN principle of “responsibility to protect,”

Semantics of socialists: the trojan horse of totalitarians. R2P clever.

http://www.uncoverage.net/2011/03/right-to-protect-libyans-clause-gives-u-n-power-over-our-military/

Life, liberty and the pursuit and destruction of totalitarians.


4 posted on 03/26/2011 6:27:39 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: rickmichaels

More extracts about R2P philosophy here...

http://philpapers.org/rec/BELRTP


5 posted on 03/26/2011 6:30:16 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: rickmichaels

It’s much bigger than Stanley Kurtz indicates/links in this article...

http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/262725/president-reticent-stanley-kurtz


6 posted on 03/26/2011 6:36:30 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: rickmichaels

Impeach POSOTUS.


7 posted on 03/26/2011 6:37:18 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: PGalt
It's a test for the American civilization, also. If the precedent of putting U.S. military personnel into a fight at the bidding of an alien power, without even the tacit approval of Congress, goes unchallenged the Republic faces a clear and present danger.

We will have a Caesar as capricious and as institutionally stubborn as any of the worst who ruled the Roman Empire after "the Divine Julius" delivered the coup de grace to the Roman Republic.

Only this latter-day Caesar seems determined to reduce the Empire in scope rather than to expand its frontiers.

It's clear the mullahs and their vassals are trying to goad the Israelis into a fight, like Cast Lead.

Is the American regime deliberately trying to provoke another Civil War in the United States?

8 posted on 03/26/2011 6:41:40 AM PDT by Prospero (non est ad astra mollis e terris via)
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To: rickmichaels

And the word coming out of Washington is that this is still a “no-fly zone”, but when was the last time you saw a tank fly, unless it was hit by an American aircraft??

Obama is making this up as he goes, and in the process has pissed off just about every constituent group he has ever had, and mobilized everyone who opposes him with renewed vigor.

The longer this goes on, the worse things will get, and I do not mean just for Obammy personally. His handlers are desperately trying to write a cogent speech for the teleprompter on Monday night, but the situation changes so much over there, hour by hour, it’s hard for even them to mischaracterize and “translate” what’s going on to Premier Hussein’s advantage.

This speech on Monday ought to be a loo-loo. There is no telling what he is going to read, and in any case it is far too little and way too late. He should have been reading this speech ahead of time, to explain what his carefully planned operation was going to accomplish, but that didn’t happen because he apparently didn’t consult anyone in advance, and he has largely allowed the Secretary of State to run the war for him.

The Hildebeest is in direct peril of being thrown under the bus when the Libyan operation goes straight to hell. She would be well advised to keep her resignation handy so she can leave before Hussein fires her.

What a mess.


9 posted on 03/26/2011 6:50:30 AM PDT by Bean Counter (Stout Hearts!I)
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To: rickmichaels

Thanks to Trevor Loudon at...

http://newzeal.blogspot.com/2011/03/responsibility-to-protect-end-of.html

...and Glenn Beck for Thursday’s March 24, 2011 show...

http://www.watchglennbeck.com/video/2011/march/glenn-beck-show-march-24-2011-is-america-on-the-wrong-side/


10 posted on 03/26/2011 7:04:20 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: Prospero; Bean Counter

BUMP! BUMP!


11 posted on 03/26/2011 7:05:41 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: rickmichaels

They ar enot beig suckered, they are well aware of what they are doing. If anything it is the writer and readers who are being suckered with this meaningless tripe.


12 posted on 03/26/2011 7:09:06 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God!)
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To: rickmichaels

They ar enot being suckered, they are well aware of what they are doing. If anything it is the writer and readers who are being suckered with this meaningless tripe.


13 posted on 03/26/2011 7:09:11 AM PDT by stockpirate (Rebellion to tyranny is obedience to God!)
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To: rickmichaels

vuto has a 2 hour special on now on fox. He has several heavy hitters. Bolton on now....


14 posted on 03/26/2011 7:15:05 AM PDT by bert (K.E. N.P. N.C. D.E. +12 ....( History is a process, not an event ))
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Obama: No U.S. Forces on the Ground in Libya . . . Except for Those Guys.
By Jim Geraghty
Posted on March 23, 2011 3:46 PM

NPR: “President Obama said Wednesday it was ‘absolutely’ out of the question that U.S. ground forces would be used in Libya.”

How would the president describe the 26th Marine Expeditionary Unit? There is no such thing as a purely air-based combat mission; planes have problems and pilots end up on the ground, and then U.S. forces have to end up on the ground, hopefully briefly, to rescue them and bring them home safely. Ask Scott O’Grady how much time you can spend on the ground while patrolling a no-fly zone.

Details on the recent rescue:

The Kearsarge then sent up two MV-22 Ospreys carrying Marine rescue teams. As they were en route, the Harriers dropped two laser-guided bombs near the crash site, apparently to keep Libyans on the ground from approaching the pilot.

With additional helicopters hovering overhead for security, one of the Ospreys landed and picked up the pilot. He was then taken aboard the Kearsarge.

The weapons systems officer was recovered by what U.S. officials described as Libyan opposition forces. He is safe, officials have said.

There are about 2,200 Marines off the shore of Libya right now. http://www.nationalreview.com/blogs/print/262910

March 24, 2011

Are U.S. Troops Already on the Ground in Libya? | O’Reilly Factor

Special Guests | Col. David Hunt & Lt. Col. Tony Shaffer

RET. COL. DAVID HUNT, U.S. ARMY: Yes, absolutely. You’ve got British service been in there about three weeks ago and actually got captured and released. The French GIGN have been in there and our special forces and our U.S. intelligence operatives and their assets. We do not conduct operations like this, large scale air operations, without people on the ground. They have been very successful, very good, not a lot of contact with the rebels because you don’t know who to talk to. But, yes, we have got intel gathering and rescue guys and special operations guys on the ground, have had them for about 12 days.

O’REILLY: Now, do you agree with that, Col. Shaffer?

LT. COL. TONY SHAFFER, FORMER ARMY INTELLIGENCE OFFICER: Yes, I have heard from my sources — I got a call from one of my key sources on Monday and that’s exactly what’s going on. Let’s be really clear here. You have got to have these individuals doing what Dave just said, especially when you are talking about trying to protect, and the stated goal here, Bill, is humanitarian support. So you don’t want to have weapons hitting the wrong targets. So, Dave is very good on the fact that we have special operations guys sitting there with laser designators. Bill, you saw…

Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/on-air/oreilly/transcript/are-us-troops-already-ground-libya#ixzz1HiPalxMr


15 posted on 03/26/2011 7:27:49 AM PDT by KeyLargo
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Salim Mansur ping.


16 posted on 03/26/2011 6:37:01 PM PDT by Clive
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; Delacon; ...

Thanks rickmichaels.
what is the true nature of Hague's message to the attentive international community? It is plain and simple: The lives of Arabs and non-Arabs in the region whose countries are members of the league, but lack oil wealth -- Yemen, Bahrain, Darfur within Sudan, etc. -- are cheap, inconsequential and certainly not worth the expenditure needed to save them from their respective despots. Similarly, the lives of the poor, beaten and killed by despots... in places like Zimbabwe, North Korea and Myanmar, or where democracy movements are openly crushed as in Iran and China, are not worth a dime beyond the merely ritual official regrets announced by western governments. Neither are the lives of people killed by terrorist bombings as in Israel and India.

17 posted on 03/26/2011 8:11:32 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Thanks Cincinna for this link -- http://www.friendsofitamar.org)
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To: KeyLargo

BTTT


18 posted on 03/26/2011 9:20:07 PM PDT by DTA
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