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A Practical Look At The Reality Of Defensive Gun Use
Oakland Gun Rights Examiner ^ | 16 March, 2011 | Yih-Chau Chang

Posted on 03/18/2011 10:08:26 AM PDT by marktwain

In the raging gun control debate in this country, the subject of defensive gun use is one that the gun control lobby would like to keep away from the ears of the general public. After all, if there were more lawful defensive gun uses by common, law-abiding citizens than there were violent crimes committed with firearms by criminals, then the whole premise of their argument would simply fall apart. The whole idea of the anti-gun argument is that more guns leads to more violent crime.

Unfortunately, for gun control advocates, the reality is that defensive gun use is a very common occurrence. According to our own federal government's National Institute of Justice (US Department of Justice), there are at least 1.5 million defensive gun uses (DGUs) that occur in this country every year. Averaging 1.5 million DGUs over the number of days in a year (365) nets an average of 4,109 defensive gun uses every single day in this country. That is an average of 4,109 innocent victims that were able to defend themselves successfully against being murdered, raped, assaulted, and robbed. Contrast this number with the 34 individuals that Mayor Michael Bloomberg of New York claims lose their lives to gun violence every single day and you can see the clear utilitarian benefit of a lawfully-armed general populace.

Even when factoring in all violent crimes as reported by our own federal government's Bureau of Justice Statistics (US Department of Justice) that are perpetrated by violent criminals with firearms--a total of 303,880 (832 per day) in 2008 (see Table 7), one can still see that there is a clear utilitarian benefit to the phenomenon of common, law-abiding citizens being armed in society.

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The anti-freedom types in society are never willing to acknowledge the utility of arms for self defense. If they do so, their entire argument falls apart.
1 posted on 03/18/2011 10:08:32 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: marktwain

bump!


2 posted on 03/18/2011 10:09:07 AM PDT by Mr. Silverback (Anyone who says we need illegals to do the jobs Americans won't do has never watched "Dirty Jobs.")
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To: marktwain
I've found that in the general public, there are really very few virulent anti-gunners. There are a lot more who may not be gun-owners, and are more fence-sitters on the issue.

I've found that when I simply make a remark to the effect that, "Any time a politician wants to inhibit or undermine my ability to protect myself, my loved ones or the people around me, I have to ask 'why?'," it seems to at least get them thinking.

3 posted on 03/18/2011 10:19:23 AM PDT by Joe 6-pack (Que me amat, amet et canem meum)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Except for those that have had a gun tragedy in their lives, the people I know that do not hunt or own any, really don’t ever think about them.


4 posted on 03/18/2011 10:23:22 AM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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And..., the only reason there aren’t more guns used defensively, is that it’s so hard to get a concealed carry permit in many places.


5 posted on 03/18/2011 10:42:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The only thing higher than Obama's chin, is his ass facing West five times a day.)
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To: Joe 6-pack

Mentioning how long it takes to get the police on the line, and then to get them to show up while you’re under direct threat also makes them think.

Protect yourself NOW, or wait ten to fifteen minutes? What’s your take when it’s your, your spouse, and your children’s lives on the line?

Even a Lefty starts squirming when you ask them this.


6 posted on 03/18/2011 10:48:28 AM PDT by DoughtyOne (The only thing higher than Obama's chin, is his ass facing West five times a day.)
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To: marktwain

Posted this on a thread discussing this new found interest in the Feds controlling all gun sales:

Think about the fact that we have two world events that exemplify why someone would need firearms.

Libya shows us that sometimes guns are necessary to resist tyranny and the disaster in Japan shows us that there are sometimes when you need to fend for your family.

The gun grabbers would like to think that those justifications do not exist in the real world, maybe because they do not seem to exist in the real world.


7 posted on 03/18/2011 10:48:56 AM PDT by chainsaw56 (Do you have the right to defend yourself??)
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To: Joe Brower

Bang! Could you post your GunFacts 5.0 info in this thread? Thanks!


8 posted on 03/18/2011 10:59:17 AM PDT by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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>>Except for those that have had a gun tragedy in their lives, the people I know that do not hunt or own any, really don’t ever think about them.<<

That’s true .... until the dark night when they are watching TV and hear someone fiddling with the front door handle. Yes, that happened to a liberal non gun owner who admitted to me that he came very close to buying a gun the next day but friends talked him out of it.


9 posted on 03/18/2011 11:01:38 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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To: marktwain

>>an average of 4,109 innocent victims that were able to defend themselves vs. “the 34 individuals (who)lose their lives to gun violence every single day<<

I see this as probably 4,109 innocent victims who equal the playing field and defend themselves against multiple aggressors or armed criminals with 30 people in the gang banger or drug trades getting in shootouts with each other and 4 people who commit suicide or accidentally kill themselves.


10 posted on 03/18/2011 11:14:21 AM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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And..., the only reason there aren’t more guns used defensively, is that it’s so hard to get a concealed carry permit in many places.

California has a population of 37,000,000, with "may (in theory but not in fact) issue". Illinois, with no carry at all, has a population 13,000,000. Together these account for one sixth of the US population.

11 posted on 03/18/2011 11:17:03 AM PDT by Lee N. Field (I am not a navi, nor do I ramble on pretending to be one on teh Interwebz.)
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Look at Mexico where citizens are not allowed to own guns, and defend themselves. It is a criminal state, from top to bottom.


12 posted on 03/18/2011 11:21:22 AM PDT by pallis
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To: EdReform
Gun Facts v5.1!

Click the pic to go to the Gun Facts v5.1 download page!


13 posted on 03/18/2011 11:38:38 AM PDT by Joe Brower (Sheep have three speeds: "graze", "stampede" and "cower".)
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To: marktwain

The Gun

It is better to have it, and not need it,
Than to need it and not have it.

Or as an old westerner said over 150 years ago...

When you need it, you NEED it!
And when you need it, YOU REALLY NEED IT!


14 posted on 03/18/2011 11:43:19 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Visit the TOMMY FRANKS MILITARY MUSEUM in HOBART, OK. I did, well worth it!)
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To: Lee N. Field

There you go. Open season on citizens.

Thanks for the mention.


15 posted on 03/18/2011 12:05:58 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (The only thing higher than Obama's chin, is his ass facing West five times a day.)
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To: Joe 6-pack
I've found that when I simply make a remark to the effect that, "Any time a politician wants to inhibit or undermine my ability to protect myself, my loved ones or the people around me, I have to ask 'why?'," it seems to at least get them thinking.

"There's only one reason anyone, including politicians, want to disarm you. That is so they can do something to you that you don't want them to do." L. Neal Smith

16 posted on 03/18/2011 12:21:13 PM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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To: B4Ranch

I don’t personally know anyone that has had that happen to them.


17 posted on 03/18/2011 12:28:59 PM PDT by stuartcr (Everything happens as God wants it to...otherwise, things would be different)
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To: B4Ranch
...that he came very close to buying a gun the next day but friends talked him out of it.

I could only imagine what that conversation might have sounded like. Almost dragged into reality by crime, the poor fool still didn't get it. tsk

18 posted on 03/18/2011 1:11:49 PM PDT by theymakemesick ( islam - inspired by Satan www.prophetofdoom.net)
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To: stuartcr

It’s happened to me.


19 posted on 03/18/2011 1:20:59 PM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: theymakemesick

He was told that he would lose a lot of friends if they found out that he had bought a handgun and was keeping it inside his house. I didn’t pry but I imagine they were drug users.


20 posted on 03/18/2011 4:47:46 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Do NOT remain seated until this ride comes to a full and complete stop! We're going the wrong way!)
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