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Naming the Crime. If what Hitler did was genocide, what do we call what Stalin did?
National Review ^ | 03/18/2011 | Andrew Stutafford

Posted on 03/18/2011 7:33:50 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Winter is bleak enough as it is. This year the gloom was deepened by the publication of How to Change the World: Tales of Marx and Marxism, by Eric Hobsbawm, one of Britain’s most feted historians, and, oh yes, a man who stuck with the Communist party until 1991 despite a global killing spree that took perhaps one hundred million lives. Naturally Hobsbawm’s new book has triggered the usual hosannas from the usual congregation for, to quote the Guardian, this “grand old man.”

There had, of course, been that minor unpleasantness back in the 1990s when Hobsbawm had appeared to imply that the deaths of 15 or 20 million people might have been justified had the Communist utopia actually been achieved. This ancient ogre (he is 93) is now more discreet. Reviewing How to Change the World in the Financial Times, Francis Wheen, no rightist and the author of an erudite and entertaining biography of Karl Marx, noted how Hobsbawm could not “bring himself to mention the Hitler-Stalin pact, referring only to ‘temporary episodes such as 1939–41.’ The Soviet invasion of Hungary and the crushing of the Prague Spring were [also] skipped over.”

But who are we to quibble, when, as his admirers like to remind us, Hobsbawm’s life has been “shaped by the struggle against fascism,” an excuse understandable in the 1930s (Hobsbawm, who is Jewish, quit Germany as a teenager in 1933), but grotesque more than six decades after the fall of the Third Reich.

Just how grotesque was highlighted by two books that came out last year. In the first, Bloodlands: Europe between Hitler and Stalin, Yale history professor Timothy Snyder describes the darkness that engulfed a stretch of Eastern Europe in the mid-20th century. He leaves only one convincing response to the question that dominates the second, Stalin’s Genocides, by Stanford’s Norman Naimark: For all the unique evils of the Holocaust, was Stalin, no less than Hitler, guilty of genocide?

The first half of Professor Snyder’s grim saga revolves around the Ukrainian famine of 1932–33, a manufactured catastrophe in which zeal, malice and indifference conspired to create a horror in which, Snyder calculates, well over three million perished (there are other, much higher, estimates). It was, Snyder writes, “not food shortages but food distribution that killed millions in Soviet Ukraine, and it was Stalin who decided who was entitled to what.”

The Ukrainian countryside had already been devastated by collectivization and the killing, imprisonment, or exile of millions of its most enterprising inhabitants. Now it was to be stripped of what little it had left. The peasants were given targets for the amount of grain and other foodstuffs they were expected to hand over to the state, targets that would leave them with barely anything to live on, and often not even that. Refusal was not an option. Starvation was not an excuse. Nothing was left behind. Nobody was allowed to leave. The peasants were trapped. And they were condemned. In the spring of 1933 they died at the rate of more than ten thousand a day. “The only meat was human.”

That fall the United States extended diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union.

Communism has brought mass starvation in its wake on a number of occasions (2010 also saw the appearance of Mao’s Great Famine, by Frank Dikötter, a harrowing account of the death of millions during the Chairman’s Great Leap Forward), but what distinguishes the Ukrainian Holodomor (a coinage that means murder by hunger) is that, as Snyder demonstrates, this particular famine was not just incidental to the business of fashioning utopia. It was deliberate, a weapon designed to break a class enemy, Ukraine’s embattled peasantry, and the battered nation of which it was the backbone.

It is this national element that some historians would like to deny. It unsettles the conventional narrative under which the ethnically based mass murders of mid-20th-century Europe are associated almost exclusively with Nazis, and, in so doing, it raises some awkward questions about those in the democratic world who looked so longingly to Moscow in the 1930s. The details of the Holodomor might have been obscure or obscured, but there was a fairly widespread awareness in the West that something had occurred. How else to explain all that talk of omelet and eggs? Those who claimed to have turned to Communism only because of the growing Nazi threat must have believed that those millions of dead Ukrainians counted for very little.

And it wasn’t just Ukrainians. As the Thirties curdled on, the list of peoples brutalized by Stalin grew ever longer. The “national operations” that were a murderous subset of the Great Terror of 1937–38 accounted for some 250,000 deaths, including those of at least 85,000 Soviet Poles. The hideous ethnic persecution developing in the Third Reich throughout the 1930s may have been more overt than its Soviet counterpart, but it was in the USSR that the cattle trucks were already rolling. At that stage Hitler’s haul of victims lagged far behind.

That was to change. The second part of Snyder’s book details how the Nazis brought their own flavor of hell to the territories he dubs the Bloodlands. With his feel for neglected history, Snyder restores focus to the terrible fate of the Soviet POWs who had fallen into German hands: “The Germans shot, on a conservative estimate, half a million Soviet prisoners of war. By way of starvation or mistreatment during transit, they killed about 2.6 million more.”

He correctly sees this not just as a matter of callousness and cruelty but as an adjunct to Hitler’s wider plans for a region that was to be emptied of most of its original inhabitants and re-peopled by the master race.

And then, of course, there were the Jews. In page after grueling page, Snyder depicts the pogrom that erupted across the Bloodlands. After all these years, after all the histories, there are still details that appall: “By spring 1943, fires burned at Treblinka day and night. . . . Women, with more fatty tissue, burned better than men; so the laborers learned to put them on the bottom of the pile.”

In an interesting twist, Snyder reveals how the usual Western understanding of the Holocaust, centered on the almost clinical danse macabre of deportation and eventual extermination in a camp far from Paris, Amsterdam, or Rome, fails to reflect the more typical experience to the east. The frenzied killings that swept the Bloodlands in the wake of the German invasion — within six months one million Soviet Jews had been butchered — are the clearest possible evidence of a primeval savagery unleashed.

To suggest, as some have, that, by twinning his chronicle of Nazi atrocity with a history of the Soviet slaughters of the previous decade, Snyder has in some way diminished the Holocaust is absurd. The Holocaust was underpinned by a dream of annihilation that was all its own, but it was also a product of its era. Like Communism, Nazism was a creed with a strong religious resonance (it’s no coincidence that this was a time when more conventional religions were losing their traditional hold over the human imagination), yet it aimed at creating a utopia for its elect here on earth, a dangerous enough delusion under the best of circumstances, let alone those developing in the early 20th century. For these utopias were, quite explicitly, to be built by bloodshed and sustained by force, a prospect made all the more menacing by technological advance, the growth of the modern state, and, critically, the shattering of so much of European civilization by the First World War. That conflict opened the door to the Bolshevik Revolution, which in turn helped pave the way for the Third Reich, a state that was both reaction against and imitation of the Soviet Union.

The Führer who, contemplating the Holocaust, once asked “who now remembers” the Armenian genocide. would certainly have noticed how quickly the Holodomor was allowed to vanish down the memory hole.

In some ways it is still there. That the Stalinist regime was guilty of what any reasonable person would describe as genocide has been beyond dispute for decades. Yet somehow there has been a hesitation about branding the Soviet state with the worst of the marks of Cain, a hesitation that still resonates — in politics, in diplomacy, and in high culture and low. Would there have been quite such an uproar if fashion designer John Galliano had said that he “loved” Stalin rather than Hitler?

In Stalin’s Genocides, Professor Naimark recounts how the definition of genocide was diluted before being enshrined in the 1948 United Nations convention. At the insistence of the Soviets — and others — the destruction of specific social and political groups was excluded. It was a distinction rooted neither in logic nor in morality, but it worked its sinister magic. Sparing Stalin, and by extension the state that he spawned, from the taint of genocide allowed the USSR to maintain some sort of hold over the radiant future that — against all the evidence — it still claimed to be building, that radiant future that has proved such a handy alibi for all the Hobsbawms and, even, for their successors today. It helped ensure that Mao’s famine too was largely passed over in silence. It still enables Russia to avoid the hard truths of its own history, an evasion that poisons its politics both at home and abroad. Sadly, it’s no surprise that the new pro-Moscow government in Ukraine has been playing down the genocidal nature of the Holodomor.

Since the Balkan wars, the jurisprudence of genocide has, as Professor Naimark shows, evolved to the point at which there could be no serious legal doubt that the architects of Soviet mass murder would, if hauled before a court today, receive the judgment they deserve. Prosecutions for the Soviet genocides have, however, been pitifully few and confined to the liberated Baltic states. Thus, in May 2008, one Arnold Meri was tried for his role in the deportation of 251 Estonians almost sixty years before. He died before a verdict could be reached. Not long later Dmitri Medvedev awarded Meri a posthumous medal for his wartime service.

And if you want just one reason why these books by Professors Snyder and Naimark are so important, that’s not a bad place to start. Hobsbawm you can junk.

— Andrew Stuttaford is a contributing editor of National Review Online.


TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: erichobsbawm; genocide; hitler; stalin
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To: Smber
I am more convinced than ever that leftism (or progressivism) has NO moral compass; it exists only for the sake of power over the individual.

Well said. And the most dangerous people on the planet are the Utopians whose foolish vanity that they can perfect society allows monsters like Hitler and Stalin to gain power.

21 posted on 03/18/2011 8:22:24 AM PDT by Ditto (Nov 2, 2010 -- Partial cleaning accomplished. More trash to remove in 2012)
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To: SeekAndFind

Because of the fact that Soviet was on the winners side at the end of WWII, their crimes against the Human race prior, during and after the war never got scrutinized by Western media and intellectuals.

Russia still is a mess not wishing to become a part of Western Civilization.

We Swedes have fought them for ages. The people are all right, their leaders are not.


22 posted on 03/18/2011 8:22:41 AM PDT by WesternCulture
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To: Smber

Hitler killed you for what ypur birth certificate recorded for ethnicity or religion. Stalin killed you for what your W-2 recorded as occupation or profession.


23 posted on 03/18/2011 8:26:09 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: PzLdr
Stalin killed you for what your W-2 recorded as occupation or profession.

Make no mistake, he also killed for ethnicity, although he was Georgian by birth, he believed Russians were superior to the other races in the Soviet Union.

24 posted on 03/18/2011 8:28:18 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Cronos

Actually some of his poses, especially the jutting chin shots, bring Mussolini to mind. Hence the sobriquet, “Il Douche”.


25 posted on 03/18/2011 8:28:34 AM PDT by PzLdr ("The Emperor is not as forgiving as I am" - Darth Vader)
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To: mnehring

I think “genocide” has the specific meaning that it’s an attempt to wipe out an entire people. It is mass murder, but with an identified demographic target. It’s not saying anything about being a lesser or greater offense, but merely describing the nature of the objectives.


26 posted on 03/18/2011 8:33:21 AM PDT by Ramius (Personally, I give us... one chance in three. More tea?)
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To: SeekAndFind

In my opinion, a particular problem with understanding the breadth and scope of Stalin’s mass murders, is the fact that he didn’t allow photographs to be taken, it was a punishable by death offense.

We have those horrible photographs of the German prisoner of war camps, and the crematoriums, and piles of bones, but Stalin did his murdering in secret. In fact, in the many instances where he actually had the soldiers kill whole groups of people (and pay them extra wages for doing so), he would then have those soldiers who had performed his killings then killed by others, and then those killed; and on and on it went. It’s actually pretty amazing we know what we do about those horrible times/crimes.

And then the fact of the Gulags located in the frozen tundra. There will come a day when that land finally unfreezes, when the bones of the millions who suffered and died there may finally be uncovered (what with global warming and all /s ) and the world will be amazed.


27 posted on 03/18/2011 8:35:09 AM PDT by Auntie Mame (Fear not tomorrow. God is already there.)
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To: Ramius

Stalin let Hitler do his dirty work for him.

I believe that once Hitler invaded the Soviet Union, and Stalin decided which areas he would defend, he intentionally allowed Hitler to have the areas where the most Jews lived, knowing Hitler would take care of Stalin’s “Jewish Problem” for him.


28 posted on 03/18/2011 8:37:26 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

False utopias always end up with, “Up against the wall, mo’fo!”


29 posted on 03/18/2011 8:38:11 AM PDT by metesky (My retirement fund is holding steady @ $.05 a can.)
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To: SeekAndFind

Oddly enough, I do not equate what Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, and the Japanese militarists did; with what Hitler, Mussolini, and Franco did.

The difference is that of “the European way” vs. “the Asiatic way”. Two very different philosophies of life and even reality.

The European way emphasizes the importance of the individual, for in that philosophy, the individual retains all authority and responsibility. It is a hallmark of our civilization, and our society is imbued with the idea.

But it is not a universal idea. In Asia, the individual is less important than his family, and his family is less important than his extended family or clan, his village, his region, and his nation.

A rough way of describing this in practice would be that if a man were to offend the king or emperor in the West, he might be killed; but were he to do so in Asia, his entire village might be put to the sword.

Westerners tend to look at things with the perspective of individualism. As an American, if you look at the history of the US Civil War, what leaps out at you is that it is an event of individuals, hundreds of names that define the events.

But on the far side of the world, at about that same time, and much more horrific and destructive, was what was likely the *second* bloodiest conflict in human history after World War II. And most Americans haven’t even heard of it.

The Taiping Rebellion. 20-30 million killed, tremendously eclipsing the perhaps 700,000 dead of the American Civil War. Yet even in China, except by a few scholars perhaps, only a few individual names of top leaders are remembered, because it was not a “war of individuals”.

But back to more modern times. What so horrifies us all about Hitler’s genocide is, first of all, that it was an educated and “industrial genocide.” We are shocked that “civilized” people with university liberal arts educations, would turn into such barbaric and murderous, hate filled monsters.

And it is the individuals who were destroyed that also impact our imaginations. Real people with real names, many of whom were also highly educated and civilized.

Yet who did Stalin kill? Perhaps the only reason we are concerned is because Russia is half European and half Asiatic, which gives it a split personality. We care about those peoples West of the Urals, because they are more like us. We see in them some of the appreciation of individuality that we cherish.

But the nameless “mujiks?” The mostly uneducated Russian peasants who a mere generation before had been slaves to the great landholders? Their only hint of individuality was recognition from the Russian Orthodox church that they had souls. But little else.

Genocide is the destruction of a people, as a people. An effort to wipe out an entire breed or culture of people.

The European Jews were up to their eyebrows in culture and individuality. Thus the effort to exterminate them was openly and clearly one of genocide, that the Nazis had mulled over at length during the Wannsee conference and later.

Stalin’s orders, according to Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn, were vague and based on quotas. Directions to his secret police just to round up and kill a given number of a group of people, indifferent to any individual trait.

While utterly inhuman, this is an effort at control, not extermination. Humans exist only in the generic, in such schemes.

An odd example was Stalin’s obsession with building immense water dams. For this he ordered his secret police to just round up a given number of university students, not out of hatred or punishment, but just because they were a group. They were sent out to the hinterland to build dams, where countless numbers of them perished due to starvation, overwork, and disease.

Mass murderous in the extreme, but not genocidal.

Likewise, one of the most restive peoples during Stalin’s reign were the (surprise) Chechens. And though the Soviet army punished them hard and a lot, though they very well could have, there was never any intention to eradicate them as a people.


30 posted on 03/18/2011 8:44:14 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

Well then I guess the lesson we’ve learned is, “You can kill as many people as you want, but just make sure they’re the same race as you.”


31 posted on 03/18/2011 8:45:40 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: SeekAndFind

An omelette?

http://www.time.com/time/magazine/article/0,9171,753448-1,00.html

“RUSSIA: Stalin’s Omelette”, TIME, Oct. 24, 1932.


32 posted on 03/18/2011 8:56:40 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: SeekAndFind
"...If what Hitler did was genocide, what do we call what Stalin did?"

Hope and Change?

33 posted on 03/18/2011 8:56:49 AM PDT by Psalm 73 ("Gentlemen, you can't fight in here - this is the War Room".)
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To: SeekAndFind

“In the spring of 1933 they died at the rate of more than ten thousand a day. “The only meat was human.” That fall the United States extended diplomatic recognition to the Soviet Union.”

Let’s see ... what change in US politics would have led to diplomatic recognition of the USSR in 1933?


34 posted on 03/18/2011 9:06:10 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: Auntie Mame

Google “Road of bones”


35 posted on 03/18/2011 9:08:57 AM PDT by Western Phil
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To: SeekAndFind
“If You Want to Make an Omelet, You Must Be Willing to Break a Few Eggs.” — attributed to Lenin (who was paraphrasing Robespierre).

The media would call what Stalin did "breaking a few eggs" and they would excuse it. He may have murdered 20-30 million of his own people, but none of the dead are complaining about it, so why should we worry? The media treat ObamaCare exactly the same and for the same reason. What matters to the far left is progress toward a communist utopia, not the suffering along that path (or once we get there).

36 posted on 03/18/2011 9:20:30 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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To: SeekAndFind

Nowadays we call it “Progressivism”


37 posted on 03/18/2011 9:33:04 AM PDT by muir_redwoods (Obama. Chauncey Gardiner without the homburg.)
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To: SeekAndFind
If what Hitler did was genocide, what do we call what Stalin did?

Communists call it a small price to promote the glories of mother Russia and Communism. Ptui..........

Whereas Hitler's Nazism is dead, Communism is alive and well, not only in mother Russia but in the Halls of US Congress and the Oval Office as well!!!

38 posted on 03/18/2011 9:34:14 AM PDT by varon (Allegiance to the Constitution, always. Allegiance to a party, never!)
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To: Smber
Marxism does indeed have a moral compass, but its true North is different from from ours.

Trotsky wrote an entire book on the topic: Their Morals and Ours, available online. Its bottom line:

A means can be justified only by its end. But the end in its turn needs to be justified, From the Marxist point of view, which expresses the historical interests of the proletariat, the end is justified if it leads to increasing the power of man over nature and to the abolition of the power of man over man.

Saul Alinsky, the intellectual mentor of Obama and Clinton, saw things from the same perspective. In Rules for Radicals, Alinsky writes:

That perennial question, “Does the end justify the means?” is meaningless as it stands; the real and only question regarding the ethics of means and ends is, and always has been, “Does this particular end justify this particular means?…The end is what you want, and the means is how you get it…The man of action views the issue of means and ends in pragmatic and strategic terms. He has no other problem; he thinks of his actual resources and the possibilities of various choices of action. He asks of ends only whether they are achievable and worth the cost; of means, only whether they will work.

The differences in morality arise from religion. Traditional European notions of morality arise of the Judeo-Christian religions. The morality of Marxism arises from a different source, perhaps most explicitly identified in Marx's own poetry:

“Till heart’s bewitched, till senses reel:

With Satan I have struck my deal.

He chalks the signs, beats time for me,

I play the death march fast and free.

-- Karl Marx, The Fiddler

The history of Marxism could well be described as a death march led by the Lord of the Flies.

39 posted on 03/18/2011 9:59:10 AM PDT by Skepolitic
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To: SeekAndFind

Democide. Thanks Professor Rummel.


40 posted on 03/18/2011 10:01:54 AM PDT by Lurker (The avalanche has begun. The pebbles no longer have a vote.)
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