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Has the number of umemployed been manipulated?

Posted on 03/06/2011 7:50:10 AM PST by reaganator

The recent jobs report has shown the unemployment rate has dropped to 8.9%, what is the formula used for determining this rate?

Is it possible for the current Administration to elinimate certain sectors of the unemployed to achieve this desired result? Those who were collecting unemployment benefits but are now being paid to go to school or are being paid to remain poor. etc.

When the welfare rolls increase does this decrease the unemployment rolls?

Is it possible for the Administration to stretch to increase the actual number count of the American work force to achieve a lower unemployment rate? Count those who previosly were not counted.

I suspect there will be adjusted job numbers to come.

I admit great ignorance comcerning this matter and would appreciate Freepers help in learning more about this.


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1 posted on 03/06/2011 7:50:10 AM PST by reaganator
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To: reaganator

Other pertinent questions: Is the Pope Catholic? Does a bear crap in the woods? Is Stroker a narcissistic little Marxist bastard?


2 posted on 03/06/2011 7:52:09 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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http://www.dailyfinance.com/story/careers/real-unemployment-number/19833935/


3 posted on 03/06/2011 7:53:08 AM PST by mnehring
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The ONLY thing that surprised me is that it took Obama over a year to figure out how to control this statistic.

The problem he has now is that he cannot control the price of oil very much...and should gasoline hit $9.00 per gallon, which it will if Saudi falls, he will have to answer for that at the polls.


4 posted on 03/06/2011 7:54:24 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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I’d suspect you would be right.


5 posted on 03/06/2011 7:55:43 AM PST by SouthTexas (Tea time!)
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The government statistic most commonly quotes is U3, which is the number of unemployed divided by total unemployed plus total employed. Unemployed is defined as people out of work who have actively looked for work within the last four weeks. Obviously that leaves a lot to be desired. There are other, more accurate statistics like U6 which considers unemployed and people who would like full time jobs but are working part time for economic reasons and those who have looked for work within the last year but not within the last four weeks. The U6 percentage is in the mid to upper teens.


6 posted on 03/06/2011 7:56:09 AM PST by K-Stater
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You can bet that the SRM will do EVERYTHING possible to make certain that he doesn’t get touched by that news.


7 posted on 03/06/2011 7:56:44 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: reaganator

Several technical threads about this already. Yes, it is cooked.


8 posted on 03/06/2011 7:58:12 AM PST by mad_as_he$$
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To: BobL
The problem he has now is that he cannot control the price of oil very much...and should gasoline hit $9.00 per gallon, which it will if Saudi falls, he will have to answer for that at the polls.

Nah! He'll just go back to blaming Bush. It worked for him before.
9 posted on 03/06/2011 7:58:16 AM PST by adorno
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Has the number of umemployed been manipulated?

This must be a trick question.

The last straw in the last collapse of the economy was $4.00/gallon gasoline. It's starting to get close to that again, and fewer people are able to weather it today than were in those days.

Any labor report that suggests a recovery while the price of gasoline continues to climb into the stratosphere should be greeted with guffaws, loud and public and sarcastic laughter.

10 posted on 03/06/2011 7:58:32 AM PST by stevem
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You forgot 'gay' too!
11 posted on 03/06/2011 7:58:42 AM PST by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: Howie66

A better question would be to ask which statistic this administration has not manipulated or lied about for political gain?


12 posted on 03/06/2011 7:59:12 AM PST by jospehm20
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Has the number of umemployed been manipulated?

Let's see, yep the sun rose in the East this morning.

13 posted on 03/06/2011 7:59:12 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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“Nah! He’ll just go back to blaming Bush. It worked for him before.”

He can try, it didn’t work too well in 2010. Most likely he’ll start pumping out the strategic reserve just before the election...hopefully there will be enough people wise to it so he doesn’t get away with it.


14 posted on 03/06/2011 8:00:43 AM PST by BobL (PLEASE READ: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2657811/posts)
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...and should gasoline hit $9.00 per gallon, which it will if Saudi falls, he will have to answer for that at the polls.

Yes, but that will be offset by the fact that the official unemployment rate will be 2.2 %. How? Well, he can try to get a package through congress extending unemployment benefits for at least 300 weeks. The Republicans will refuse to consider such a proposal, and no extension of benefits will occur. They get blamed for having hearts of ice and starving children. Many millions come to the end of their benefits and are dropped from the unemployment rolls. Voila, 2.2%! And Obama is a miracle worker!

15 posted on 03/06/2011 8:01:35 AM PST by 17th Miss Regt
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To: jospehm20

Wouldn’t it be easier to ask which stat this regime hasn’t lied about?


16 posted on 03/06/2011 8:01:40 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: stevem

Another question:

If the economy were robust the demand for gasoline and oil would be much higher than it is now. What would the price of gas be in a current robust economy?


17 posted on 03/06/2011 8:02:17 AM PST by reaganator
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...and should gasoline hit $9.00 per gallon, which it will if Saudi falls, he will have to answer for that at the polls.

It's sad that it takes such a drastic hit on the economy to put the fear of the electorate in Obama.

18 posted on 03/06/2011 8:02:35 AM PST by EGPWS (Trust in God, question everyone else)
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That would have been far too easy!


19 posted on 03/06/2011 8:02:52 AM PST by Howie66 (I can see November (2012) from my house.)
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To: reaganator
Check this thread:

The phony drop in unemployment. BLS has in essence dropped over 3.5M people from labor force

It seems that the BLS has dropped a few hundred thousand more unemployed from their overall count.
20 posted on 03/06/2011 8:03:21 AM PST by TomGuy
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