Posted on 02/26/2011 8:19:05 PM PST by Artemis Webb
I have a Taurus 94 .22LR 9 shot revolver. Does ammo make any difference as a self defense or concealed carry weapon?
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Yeah...agree. Lots of good plinkin fun.
Not joking. It is possible depending on where the bullet lodges.
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At least 90% of my firearms bookmarks come from gleaning them from banglist threads. I should take a couple of weeks off from FReeping and see what all I’ve got in there. lol
These are the best choice if you have to use a .22lr round, the Aguilla’s would be a close second. I would highly suggest the OP get more gun.
Perhaps, but i won't hit him just once. Then I'll only have a gun up my ass. He'll die from trauma on the way to the hospital.
If you were foresighted enough to carry some mayonnaise and a bunch of grapes you negotiate a Waldorf Detente.
If the SHTF, either a Red Dawn like event or an EMP attack, the 22LR will be the most useful weapon of all. You can buy years worth of ammo now for a small investment. It will bring down all small game, wild and domestic, (there won’t be much big game after a few weeks). The report does not carry far giving away your position, and all members of the family can use it.
Oh, I don’t dispute that at *all*. And I agree that the velocities of .22LR ammo are now absurdly high compared to 50 years ago. The Stinger/Yellowjacket rounds with their 32 or 33gr pills are whipping right along at 1400 to 1500 fps at the muzzle.
Still, they don’t “stop” animal targets (my best proxy for terminal ballistic comparison) quickly. In my hunting experience, most of the hype surrounding the modern all-lead .22LR rounds is just that - hype. I’ve retrieved lots of varmints (squirrels, jackrabbits, cottontails, coyotes) shot with .22LR ammo of many sorts and none (including the Stinger and Yellowjacket “HP” rounds) expand reliably, and when they do expand, the expansion is minimal.
They *do* result in death very frequently tho - with larger animals like coyotes walking or running off for hundreds of yards before dropping from blood loss.
There’s a reason why my .22LR’s other than match rifles/pistols spend most of their time in the safe - compared to a 17 HMR, they deliver pitiful terminal ballistic performance. The .17HMR puts both the LR and WMR to shame. When I do my part, I can drop a coyote with a .17HMR like a sack of bricks, every time. A one-shot-drop-in-their-tracks shot with a .22LR was very infrequent, regardless of what ammo I used. The .17HMR uses modern bullet technology - the Hornady V-max, which creates horrible wound channels. It might not go through a coyote, but what it does before it stops halfway through the chest cavity is horrible to behold.
Spot on.
Agree, and their lube really gums up the works.
That is why I think the Yellow jacket has the edge. The shoulder of that truncated cone cuts a good .22 caliber whole. Elmer Keith favored that shape in larger bores for the same reason. In his day handgun hollow points were unreliable.
BTW, forgot to mention this — before you’re dazzled by the MV numbers of these newer 22LR rounds.... shoot them through a chrony out of a handgun with a 2 or 3” barrel.
Suddenly, they’re not quite as impressive.
It indeed did better than most .22’s. I’d put the Stinger and Yellowjacket on par with each other.
The biggest opportunity out there, IMO, is for someone to put something like a V-max onto a .22LR with high velocity loading. Not another all-lead HP round, but a true varmint bullet that blows up and dumps all the energy into a short but savage wound channel. Even the .17 Mach2, which is nothing more or less than a .22LR case necked down to .17 to take the 17gr Vmax pill, drops varmints in their tracks.
I’ve only known one person who was hit with a .22. It entered his back, slid around inside a rib and came out his chest. The slug was found in his shirt. He recovered quickly, but.....
Had it punctured a lung he might not have been around to tell the tale.
Well, there was an idiot neighbor boy who used a rock to smash a .22 and it went off and hit him in the upper arm but that doesn’t count as being “shot” in my mind.
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