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Finally, finally, someone is serious about protecting the unborn. Why aren't miscarriages treated like any other death? If a million babies or young children died every year from some disease, food allergies or other cause, wouldn't there be a collective outcry?

I've said it here for years, until we REALLY AND TRULY start treating the unborn like any other citizen, we will never end legal abortion. Our failure to acknowledge that simple fact broadcasts to everyone that we really don't believe that abortion is murder. Miscarriage should be treated exactly like finding a body of a child - possible murder. We need to support bold and principled politicians like Rep. Bobby Franklin.

1 posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:15 PM PST by blade_tenner
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Unless it’s a naturally occurring biological event I don’t see how you can make a law against that happening. Or did I read it wrong?


2 posted on 02/24/2011 4:25:15 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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It looks like “eyewitness news” didn’t actually read the law.

More lies from the MSM.


3 posted on 02/24/2011 4:26:03 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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The headline doesn’t match the text of the law...the text of the law says miscarriages are exempt.


5 posted on 02/24/2011 4:27:57 PM PST by rangerwife (Proud wife of a Purple Heart Recipient)
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Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Your title is DIRECTLY contradicted by the excerpt that you posted.

Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (emphasis added)

6 posted on 02/24/2011 4:28:51 PM PST by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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Many spontaneous miscarriages are due to genetic abnormalities in the developing fetus.

The unborn are not citizens, and according to the Constitution are not citizens until they are born.

7 posted on 02/24/2011 4:30:27 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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Why does the headline at the link say:

“Some say Georgia bill criminalizes miscarriages”

and yours says something different?


8 posted on 02/24/2011 4:31:28 PM PST by macquire
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I had a miscarriage 42 years ago. If I could go back to that day, knowing what I know now, I would have asked for the remains to have been respectfully wrapped at the hospital and we would have had a funeral in our immediate family and buried the remains someplace beautiful (probably in a cemetery since there’s no guarantee anyplace else that graves won’t be disturbed), and marked the grave with a real tombstone, with name and date of birth and death.


9 posted on 02/24/2011 4:33:23 PM PST by Twinkie ( PEACE)
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So, he’s basically saying no abortions? Well, abortions are legal in this country, so this bill is going nowhere.


10 posted on 02/24/2011 4:34:01 PM PST by goldi (')
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If I read the proposed law correctly it explicitly mentions that a spontaneous miscarriage is not prenatal murder absent the hand of man. It gives legality to the life in the womb by criminalizing an act that takes that life...self defense in this case would establish a high level of insanity of the perp.
12 posted on 02/24/2011 4:41:55 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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Interesting. Essentially same thing posted over at DU at 6:14. How long would it take someone to go from posting it there to posting it here? 6 to 8 minutes?


13 posted on 02/24/2011 4:43:48 PM PST by macquire
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>>“no human involvement whatsoever in the causation”?<<

I’m as Pro-life Catholic as you get but I have a problem with this wording. It can be used against anyone.

What if a woman doesn’t even know she is pregnant and miscarries through stupidity, like getting drunk and falling down the stairs? There is no law against drinking or being stupid. Now we are going to prosecute her?

This is not right and I’m glad it will never see the light of day.

There is a difference between this and fetal murder laws.


16 posted on 02/24/2011 4:59:26 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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A [natural] miscarriage is hardly ‘intentional.’

i.e. if it *is* intentional it’s not a miscarriage.


18 posted on 02/24/2011 6:00:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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unless its a bloody clump of clot in the toilet right? or are we to call 911 to look at the miscarriage in the toilet or go to jail? idiot


19 posted on 02/24/2011 6:04:05 PM PST by annelizly
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I've said it here for years, until we REALLY AND TRULY start treating the unborn like any other citizen, we will never end legal abortion.

Really? I read just about every pro-life thread on FR and post a good many of them and I don't recall ever seeing you on pro-life threads.

Now, I did find a recent post by you were you suggest that post-abortive women should be executed, is that what you're talking about?

Miscarriage should be treated exactly like finding a body of a child - possible murder.

Most women who have miscarriages are devastated by them, and you want to treat them like criminals?

My overall impression of you is that you are a "concern troll" who is saying outrageous things in an attempt to make the pro-life movement look bad.

23 posted on 02/25/2011 11:49:06 AM PST by wagglebee ("A political party cannot be all things to all people." -- Ronald Reagan, 3/1/75)
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I think you’re a troll.


27 posted on 02/25/2011 12:05:12 PM PST by EternalVigilance (But what is Freedom? Rightly understood, a universal license to be good. -- Hartley Coleridge)
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Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event.

The emphasized portion is the problematic part of the law. Where does one draw the line at "no human involvement?" The problem is that "whatsoever" is an absolute term that precludes any application of common sense.

For example, suppose a traffic accident results in a miscarriage.... Obviously there is "human involvement" here. So one, both, or all parties to the accident are subject to prosecution for 'prenatal murder.'

How about a mother who miscarried as a result of tripping and and falling over something -- that's "human involvement." She's subject to prosecution.

I see what they're trying to do here ... but this particular law looks terrible, for the same reason that pretty much all "zero tolerance" rules are terrible.

59 posted on 02/25/2011 12:54:14 PM PST by r9etb
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63 posted on 02/25/2011 12:57:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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Why aren't miscarriages treated like any other death?

For the same reason that losing a tooth is not treated as theft.

You absolute moron.

IBTZ.


66 posted on 02/25/2011 1:06:08 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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72 posted on 02/25/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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You are going for the big ZOT here dill weed.

74 posted on 02/25/2011 3:04:24 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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