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Some say Georgia bill criminalizes miscarriages
KWCH ^ | February 23, 2011 | Chris Durden

Posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by blade_tenner

From the proposed law:

'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (c) The act of prenatal murder is contrary to the health and well-being of the citizens of this state and to the state itself and is illegal in this state in all instances. (d) Any person committing prenatal murder in this state shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be punished as provided in subsection (d) of Code Section 16-5-1.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; georgia; kittychow; miscarriage; roevwade; wtf; zot
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Finally, finally, someone is serious about protecting the unborn. Why aren't miscarriages treated like any other death? If a million babies or young children died every year from some disease, food allergies or other cause, wouldn't there be a collective outcry?

I've said it here for years, until we REALLY AND TRULY start treating the unborn like any other citizen, we will never end legal abortion. Our failure to acknowledge that simple fact broadcasts to everyone that we really don't believe that abortion is murder. Miscarriage should be treated exactly like finding a body of a child - possible murder. We need to support bold and principled politicians like Rep. Bobby Franklin.

1 posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:15 PM PST by blade_tenner
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To: blade_tenner

Unless it’s a naturally occurring biological event I don’t see how you can make a law against that happening. Or did I read it wrong?


2 posted on 02/24/2011 4:25:15 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: blade_tenner

It looks like “eyewitness news” didn’t actually read the law.

More lies from the MSM.


3 posted on 02/24/2011 4:26:03 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: ReverendJames

The law PROTECTS miscarrages.

If the state want to bring charges, it’s up the THEM to prove otherwise. “Mother Jones” is just lying about what the law says, and the idiots in the media are repeating what they are told to.


4 posted on 02/24/2011 4:27:49 PM PST by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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To: blade_tenner

The headline doesn’t match the text of the law...the text of the law says miscarriages are exempt.


5 posted on 02/24/2011 4:27:57 PM PST by rangerwife (Proud wife of a Purple Heart Recipient)
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To: blade_tenner
Do you have a reading comprehension problem? Your title is DIRECTLY contradicted by the excerpt that you posted.

Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (emphasis added)

6 posted on 02/24/2011 4:28:51 PM PST by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: blade_tenner
Many spontaneous miscarriages are due to genetic abnormalities in the developing fetus.

The unborn are not citizens, and according to the Constitution are not citizens until they are born.

7 posted on 02/24/2011 4:30:27 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: blade_tenner

Why does the headline at the link say:

“Some say Georgia bill criminalizes miscarriages”

and yours says something different?


8 posted on 02/24/2011 4:31:28 PM PST by macquire
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To: blade_tenner

I had a miscarriage 42 years ago. If I could go back to that day, knowing what I know now, I would have asked for the remains to have been respectfully wrapped at the hospital and we would have had a funeral in our immediate family and buried the remains someplace beautiful (probably in a cemetery since there’s no guarantee anyplace else that graves won’t be disturbed), and marked the grave with a real tombstone, with name and date of birth and death.


9 posted on 02/24/2011 4:33:23 PM PST by Twinkie ( PEACE)
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To: blade_tenner

So, he’s basically saying no abortions? Well, abortions are legal in this country, so this bill is going nowhere.


10 posted on 02/24/2011 4:34:01 PM PST by goldi (')
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To: VRWCmember
“no human involvement whatsoever in the causation”?

How about if the Doctor told you to that there was an increased chance of miscarriage unless you remained hospitalized the last months of pregnancy - and the patient refused that suggestion?

Miscarriage = legal penalty due to some human involvement in the causation = Criminalize (some) Miscarriages.

11 posted on 02/24/2011 4:36:29 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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If I read the proposed law correctly it explicitly mentions that a spontaneous miscarriage is not prenatal murder absent the hand of man. It gives legality to the life in the womb by criminalizing an act that takes that life...self defense in this case would establish a high level of insanity of the perp.
12 posted on 02/24/2011 4:41:55 PM PST by crazyhorse691 (Now that the libs are in power dissent is not only unpatriotic, but, it is also racist.)
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To: blade_tenner

Interesting. Essentially same thing posted over at DU at 6:14. How long would it take someone to go from posting it there to posting it here? 6 to 8 minutes?


13 posted on 02/24/2011 4:43:48 PM PST by macquire
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To: Fido969

Mother Jones. Believe it or not I used to subscribe to that rag. Ok, I remember Virginia wanting women, or requiring women who’ve had miscarriages to report them. Like it was a law for them to do so.


14 posted on 02/24/2011 4:48:45 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: ReverendJames

Back in the 70’s my brother was a radical left wing kook (he’s still pretty liberal but a wife and couple of kids have calmed him down a bit) and he bought everyone in the entire family a subscription to Mother Jones magazine.


15 posted on 02/24/2011 4:56:30 PM PST by fkabuckeyesrule
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>>“no human involvement whatsoever in the causation”?<<

I’m as Pro-life Catholic as you get but I have a problem with this wording. It can be used against anyone.

What if a woman doesn’t even know she is pregnant and miscarries through stupidity, like getting drunk and falling down the stairs? There is no law against drinking or being stupid. Now we are going to prosecute her?

This is not right and I’m glad it will never see the light of day.

There is a difference between this and fetal murder laws.


16 posted on 02/24/2011 4:59:26 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule

It was back then when I was reading it. I’ve soon learned. Was it Mother Jones or Mother Earth News? Now I forget.


17 posted on 02/24/2011 5:00:43 PM PST by ReverendJames (Only A Painter Or A Liberal Can Change Black To White.)
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To: blade_tenner

A [natural] miscarriage is hardly ‘intentional.’

i.e. if it *is* intentional it’s not a miscarriage.


18 posted on 02/24/2011 6:00:56 PM PST by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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unless its a bloody clump of clot in the toilet right? or are we to call 911 to look at the miscarriage in the toilet or go to jail? idiot


19 posted on 02/24/2011 6:04:05 PM PST by annelizly
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Okay folks, simple question: Do you believe that human life exists as fertilized egg onward, or don't you? Are you serious about protecting innocent life from conception forward or aren't you?

By the comments here, we aren't'... a "blob in the toilet"??? That's the feeling in this forum?? If the unborn aren't considered citizens in every respect as born, there is no hope for criminalization of abortion.

20 posted on 02/25/2011 8:08:04 AM PST by blade_tenner
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