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Some say Georgia bill criminalizes miscarriages
KWCH ^ | February 23, 2011 | Chris Durden

Posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by blade_tenner

From the proposed law:

'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (c) The act of prenatal murder is contrary to the health and well-being of the citizens of this state and to the state itself and is illegal in this state in all instances. (d) Any person committing prenatal murder in this state shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be punished as provided in subsection (d) of Code Section 16-5-1.


TOPICS: Society
KEYWORDS: abortion; georgia; kittychow; miscarriage; roevwade; wtf; zot
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To: allmendream; EternalVigilance
Absolutely - just as one/the Fed/the State cannot imprison indefinitely without trial or murder a non U.S. citizen (absent a state of War). They have unalienable rights that should be recognized.

But they are not citizens.

That was my point. ‘Treated like every other citizen’ is a faulty formulation because they are NOT citizens.

‘Treated with human dignity as a person’ would have gone without remark or criticism from me.

You're splitting hairs.

61 posted on 02/25/2011 12:54:52 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: metmom

It seems to come in waves.


62 posted on 02/25/2011 12:55:26 PM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: blade_tenner; 50mm; darkwing104

63 posted on 02/25/2011 12:57:11 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: DJ MacWoW

It does seem endless.


64 posted on 02/25/2011 12:57:28 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: allmendream

No.

Then you recognize that the baby is human from the moment of conception and that taking that life is murder. Right?


65 posted on 02/25/2011 12:59:02 PM PST by metmom (Welfare was never meant to be a career choice.)
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To: blade_tenner; darkwing104; Old Sarge; 50mm; Viking2002; Daffynition
Why aren't miscarriages treated like any other death?

For the same reason that losing a tooth is not treated as theft.

You absolute moron.

IBTZ.


66 posted on 02/25/2011 1:06:08 PM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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To: metmom

Yes, absolutely.

Do you recognize that the unborn are not citizens, and cannot be U.S. citizens according to the Constitution and the rules of naturalization that Congress has, via the Constitution, enacted?

That is hardly “splitting hairs”.

When one builds an argument upon a faulty premise they build castles in the sand. Useless and often worse than useless, a waste of effort.


67 posted on 02/25/2011 1:15:36 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: paulycy

68 posted on 02/25/2011 1:23:06 PM PST by Daffynition ( DBKP ~ Death By 1000 Papercuts)
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To: metmom
You evos would like nothing more than to charge women with murder for having a miscarriage.

WTH is that supposed to mean?

69 posted on 02/25/2011 2:00:11 PM PST by VRWCmember (Veritas vos Liberabit)
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To: metmom

Thank you!


70 posted on 02/25/2011 2:12:37 PM PST by netmilsmom (Happiness is a choice.)
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To: VRWCmember
When you untangle that mobius strip of delusion, be sure to let me know as well!
71 posted on 02/25/2011 2:18:53 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: blade_tenner; 230FMJ; 50mm; A.Hun; abigailsmybaby; AFPhys; Aircop_2006; AliVeritas; Allegra; ...

Please let me know if you want ON or OFF my Viking Kitty/ZOT ping list!. . . don't be shy.

72 posted on 02/25/2011 2:40:10 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: blade_tenner; darkwing104; 50mm; stephenjohnbanker
ZOT!


73 posted on 02/25/2011 2:59:40 PM PST by TheOldLady
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To: blade_tenner

You are going for the big ZOT here dill weed.

74 posted on 02/25/2011 3:04:24 PM PST by Lazlo in PA (Now living in a newly minted Red State.)
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To: trisham

I think this was a leftwing ploy. I’ve seen this same type of article mentioned on other sites and there’s always a liberal in posting “republican scandal” or saying “if you voted for the GOP, you should be ashamed.”


75 posted on 02/25/2011 3:33:36 PM PST by dragonblustar ("... and if you disagree with me, then you sir, are worse than Hitler!" - Greg Gutfeld)
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To: dragonblustar

You may well be right.


76 posted on 02/25/2011 3:39:23 PM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Twinkie

I am so sorry for your loss. Your child will be waiting for you in heaven and loves you. God Bless.


77 posted on 02/25/2011 5:19:33 PM PST by RedMDer (Stimulus... hasn't stimulated ANYTHING but The TEA PARTY!!! - Sarah Palin)
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To: goldi
So, he’s basically saying no abortions? Well, abortions are legal in this country, so this bill is going nowhere.

No, they're not. The Constitution, which is the Supreme Law of the Land, forbids the killing of any innocent person, and requires that the equal protection of the laws be applied to every person.

And, under our Constitution courts don't make laws. The representatives of the people do that. And those laws, to be legitimate, must comport with the imperative requirement that the unalienable rights of the people are protected. After all, the founders considered it to be self-evident that this is why government even exists.

78 posted on 02/25/2011 6:38:59 PM PST by EternalVigilance (But what is Freedom? Rightly understood, a universal license to be good. -- Hartley Coleridge)
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To: blade_tenner

if you’d ever actually had a miscarriage in the first trimester then you would know that it isn’t a baby so much as a period. This is where I am not 100% pro life and i never will be. The first trimester is for the woman, IMO and after that its for the child.


79 posted on 02/25/2011 7:07:21 PM PST by annelizly
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To: RedMDer

Thank you. I was in my 5th month of pregnancy. The nurse told me that she couldn’t really tell what sex the baby was, but thought it was a little boy. My grandmother saw a vision of my baby before she died, and said it was a little girl. So, I’ve named the baby Aaron it it’s a boy, and Erin if it’s a girl. (Don’t know if that’ll be okay.) I also have a boy who was full term and born with a birth defect which later caused him to have to have surgery; he died in the recovery room at 6 wks. of age. We have another son who’s 45 yrs. old now and lives on Long Island. After the death of the last baby, I just didn’t have the strength or stamina to try any more due to many circumstances. Anyway, I have three children. Possibly two boys and a girl, or possibly three boys. - Husband and I’ve been married 46 yrs.; through thick and thin, and back thick again.


80 posted on 02/25/2011 7:54:50 PM PST by Twinkie ( PEACE)
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