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A reversal on carbs
LA Times ^ | December 20, 2010 | Marni Jameson

Posted on 02/23/2011 10:38:03 AM PST by Immerito

A reversal on carbs

Fat was once the devil. Now more nutritionists are pointing accusingly at sugar and refined grains.

Most people can count calories. Many have a clue about where fat lurks in their diets. However, fewer give carbohydrates much thought, or know why they should.

But a growing number of top nutritional scientists blame excessive carbohydrates — not fat — for America's ills. They say cutting carbohydrates is the key to reversing obesity, heart disease, Type 2 diabetes and hypertension.

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TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: carbohydrates; carbs; diet; fat; lowcarb; nutrition
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To: depenzz

On the prism diet, you abstain from any product with sugar as one of the first four ingredients on the list, and potatoes, and pasta and ALL bread (even whole wheat).

For six weeks I ate sandwiches at work made with rice cakes. Blech!

And in 18 weeks I went from 245 lbs to 190. I rode the STP that year and it was unbelievable how much easier it was (I’ve done every STP between 1991 and 2008)


41 posted on 02/23/2011 11:25:16 AM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Peter from Rutland
Ha ha. You'll need a bigger glass. Cheers!

42 posted on 02/23/2011 11:27:45 AM PST by evets (beer)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Plenty of paleos do drink beer! I don’t so I don’t know the reasons, but I also eat organic dairy products along with the eggs and meat. I’m sure you are fine — but if you eat a funnel cake or some other grain junk at a fair, you will feel crappy after!

If you eat no grains you lose all craving s for them. I used to love cookies and donuts — now I would not dream of eating them, even though I sometimes get them for my kids. The appeal is lost. Now I crave things like ceasar salads (no croutons) or filet mignons, or really good cheese on sliced apples. :)


43 posted on 02/23/2011 11:30:14 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: Yaelle

Hey, thank you! Looks very interesting from the reviews on Amazon.

Think I’ll grab a copy.


44 posted on 02/23/2011 11:31:53 AM PST by headstamp 2 ("My Boss is a Jewish Carpenter")
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To: Immerito

I do well when I don’t eat breads/grains, pasta, sweets, potatoes and rice. If I eat those items in any quantity, I gain weight and fart like a race horse.


45 posted on 02/23/2011 11:32:11 AM PST by IamConservative (Liberalism - the surety of knowing that which cannot be proven.)
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To: RightField

We make pie crusts from almond flour too. On birthdays we love a fresh fruit pie, and we make it paleo.

Since we never eat grains (the kids still do), we do eat white potatoes sometimes with no bad effects. We love sweet potatoes too.


46 posted on 02/23/2011 11:33:06 AM PST by Yaelle
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To: JRandomFreeper
As a trained food service professional, I can tell you that to limit carbohydrates in menu planning is difficult. Menu fatigue can set in quickly.

Perhaps menu fatigue sets in only if you're preparing food for a large group that might complain, but in an individual family setting I don't have any trouble. Perhaps families are less demanding than the public.

I serve quinoa, bulgur, and couscous to my family in small servings, and skip these carbs myself. No rice, pasta, or potatoes--no, not even the hand-crafted pasta; it's still pure carbohydrate. Our carbs come principally from non-sugary vegetables. The kids can have bread for sandwiches if they like. I don't buy junk food or fruit juice. If people in the family want to snack, there's fruit, cheese, yogurt, nuts, dried fruit. Anything else, they pay for it themselves and I don't want to know. There are so many kinds of meat, fish, and poultry and so many millions of ways to prepare eggs and vegatables that I wouldn't understand the concept of "menu fatigue" for a family or individual.

Eating this way has improved my kids' academic performance and helped me re-find some energy and clarity of mind I thought I'd lost in the throes of middle age. My skin looks better than ever, and though I thought I was in good shape and didn't need to lose weight, I now weigh about 15 pounds less than I used to. My blood sugar is lower and more even. I sleep better. I have lots of factors in my life to be depressed about but I don't feel depressed.

47 posted on 02/23/2011 11:39:03 AM PST by ottbmare (off-the-track Thoroughbred mare)
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To: sheikdetailfeather

HA....I eat about 2 eggs per day, plus lots of other good proteins along with veggies.....and my cholesterol ratios are what my doctor said....”TO die for”....meaning VERY excellent....your neighbors....are they Democrats?


48 posted on 02/23/2011 11:40:20 AM PST by goodnesswins (I'm not a great man....I just believe in great ideas! Ronald Reagan)
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To: Immerito
But a growing number of top nutritional scientists blame excessive carbohydrates — not fat — for America's ills. They say cutting carbohydrates is the key to reversing obesity, heart disease, Type 2 diabetes and hypertension.

The main reason that a high level of carbohydrates in a hypercaloric diet (a diet in which caloric intake exceeds caloric expenditure) leads to obesity is that since the body has only about 3 day storage capacity for glucose, no storage for proteins, and relatively unlimited storage for fats, and since excessive serum glucose is dangerous because of the possibility of glycosylating proteins, the body shifts its substrate usage toward carbohydrates and away from fat as a means of protecting itself. This means that an increased amount of dietary fats goes to storage. If you keep up the excessive level of intake, you force your liver to start synthesizing fat from scratch, though humans do not do this as well as pigs or cattle. If we were able to do this more easily, there would probably be a lot fewer problems with adult onset diabetes. The bottom line, though, is if you intake more energy than you expend whatever the macronutrient form, you will gain weight in fat.
49 posted on 02/23/2011 11:42:58 AM PST by aruanan
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To: Yaelle

“...free range poultry”

Every time I read about “free range poultry” I have a good laugh.

In Panama, “free range poultry” are those chickens that live in the yard. One feeds them some grains in the morning and some in the evening before they climb up a tree to perch away from the possums. The rest of the day they spend their time running after bugs in the yard.

And in the States, this crap sells 3x more (in Panama anyway) than just regular chickens.


50 posted on 02/23/2011 11:43:42 AM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

I would LOVE to have my own chickens....but the RULES around having chickens are strict here...I’m still trying to find a place for a chicken house in my little yard..LOL...I’m thinking once the SHTF...no one will care about the rules...


51 posted on 02/23/2011 11:48:00 AM PST by goodnesswins (I'm not a great man....I just believe in great ideas! Ronald Reagan)
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To: Immerito

We need bloomberg to ban restaurants from serving bread in NYC restaurants!!!

That innocuous looking basket in the middle of the table spells DEATH!


52 posted on 02/23/2011 11:54:39 AM PST by fruser1
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To: decimon

I’m pinging to buy some.


53 posted on 02/23/2011 12:06:23 PM PST by Positive (Nothing is sadder than to see a beautiful theory murdered by a gang of brutal facts.)
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To: Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)

“Every time I read about “free range poultry” I have a good laugh.”

My wife, who is not known to have a sense of humor, once cracked me up by asking a valley girl waitress in a yuppie restaurant if they had “free-range broccoli.”


54 posted on 02/23/2011 12:30:28 PM PST by paterfamilias
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To: Immerito

ping


55 posted on 02/23/2011 12:38:01 PM PST by folkquest
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To: paterfamilias

You have to come to Panama to have a real good laugh.

Certainly we do have commercially raised chickens for the supermarkets. “Free range poultry” is grown by those who have to grow their own food in general. These folks are located in the interior of Panama and can’t afford city prices anyway and the chickens are raised for their own use and not for commercial use.

You should see these little feathered guys (“Free range poultry”) chasing all kinds of bugs all day long for food.

U.S. “Free range poultry” is 3x more expensive than commercially grown chickens in Panama.

There is an overload of these so called “free range poultry” from the U.S. They don’t sell too well in the supermarkets. This indicates to me no one is buying into this crap.

“My wife, who is not known to have a sense of humor, once cracked me up by asking a valley girl waitress in a yuppie restaurant if they had “free-range broccoli.”

Tell your wonderful wife we have “free range veggies” of all kinds here since we are a tropical country…to include everything which includes mushrooms. As a bonus, we are in the middle of mango season and avocado season. (We call avocados “alligator pears” here. I believe the name came from the West Indies.)

The “free range” mangos and alligator pears that are for sale in supermarkets come out of folks yards that have been growing there for a zillion years.

Thank you for your post. My very best to you.


56 posted on 02/23/2011 1:26:37 PM PST by Gatún(CraigIsaMangoTreeLawyer)
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To: Yaelle
There is room in everyone’s diet for fresh vegetable and fruit carbs. Just avoid grains.

I find that when I'm doing low-carb, even one apple will screw me up.

57 posted on 02/23/2011 1:33:10 PM PST by A_perfect_lady (Islam is as Islam does.)
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To: Immerito
One size does NOT fit all.

When I was rowing Crew carbohydrates were fuel for the machine.

When I became a graduate student they were fuel for fat. I lost weight on the Atkins diet, but really I can lose weight just by cutting sweets out of my diet and increasing exercise - and almost anyone can.

Our metabolism is set up to burn carbohydrates to derive energy. It is our primary means of energy metabolism.

But our bodies are also set up to conserve fat for lean times.

We don't have lean times anymore, the number one nutrition related problem of the poor in America is obesity - and one is actually more likely to be obese if they are poor.

The old rules don't really apply - unless you have the willpower to self impose lean times. Most don't. But most do have the willpower to chose a diet and exercise plan that fits their body and health - but for most it doesn't fit their desired lifestyle. People who have problems with what they eat usually do so because they don't want to exercise but they do want to eat what they want to eat.

58 posted on 02/23/2011 1:40:25 PM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: xenob
I know personally carbs (breads, pasta, etc.) give me horrible stomach pains but I can’t resist.

Have you been checked for celiac disease?

59 posted on 02/23/2011 2:10:16 PM PST by jellybean (Bookmark http://altfreerepublic.freeforums.org/index.php for when FR is down)
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To: Immerito

Good article, good thread. Thanks for posting it!


60 posted on 02/23/2011 6:05:02 PM PST by MizSterious ("Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable." -JFK)
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