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1 posted on 02/16/2011 7:15:33 AM PST by SeekAndFind
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The final jeopardy question last nite was what U.S. city....
And HAL said Toronto.


2 posted on 02/16/2011 7:18:53 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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Watson should have had to actually *listen* to the question, parse it, figure it out, *then* press the button and answer.

The way it was run it got the question in a digital instant while the humans had to wait while Alex read it in a few linear seconds. No matter how you slice it there is a bias towards the computer in that setup which allowed Watson to ring in more quickly than the humans.

They didn’t have a chance, even though Watson got a lot of answers wrong.


3 posted on 02/16/2011 7:19:37 AM PST by paulycy (Islamo-Marxism is Evil.)
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In the end it was a pointless exercise. Recognition and retrieval is what computers do and the individual(s) who prepped the machine all but admitted that the only variable would be the timing of the buzz-in.

The Jeopardy! puns are a) usually lame and b) dead giveaways so claiming that the computer would need some sort of powerful A.I. to decipher them was spurious at best.


4 posted on 02/16/2011 7:19:52 AM PST by relictele
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Jeopardy obtains all its questions from one encyclopedia.

How is this impressive when the computer just simply acts as a high speed reader?


5 posted on 02/16/2011 7:21:03 AM PST by longtermmemmory (VOTE! http://www.senate.gov and http://www.house.gov)
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It's not over folks, the second game - it's a cumulative total - is tonight.

I'm there.

6 posted on 02/16/2011 7:21:44 AM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm not really Leo Farnsworth.)
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Not the computer. The program that drives the computer.


7 posted on 02/16/2011 7:22:37 AM PST by Leftism is Mentally Deranged (Liberalism is against human nature. Practicing liberalism is detrimental to your mental stability.)
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Dumb...


8 posted on 02/16/2011 7:22:53 AM PST by Sacajaweau
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Holy Crap!!!

Time to execute Spork Weasel!!!!

9 posted on 02/16/2011 7:23:50 AM PST by starlifter (Pullum sapit)
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As a one-day Jeopardy champion, I have some insight on this issue.

For me and a good many other contestants, the most challenging part of the contest is not knowing the right answer. It’s ringing in at the right time.

You have to buzz in after Alex talks speaking and be the first one to do so after the little light up behind him goes off. If you buzz in before the light goes off, your button is locked out for half a second, which is an eternity under the circumstances.

Obviously a computer is always going to beat human reflexes at this game. I don’t know how they arranged the “buzz in” for Watson, but it has at least the potential to give the computer a huge advantage that has nothing at all to do with knowing the right answer.


10 posted on 02/16/2011 7:24:09 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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If James Cameron ever gets bored with making “noble savage” movies about Smurfs, he should do a Terminator prequel about the evolution of Skynet. First it wins game shows, then it moves into, er, social engineering, then it comes up with Stuxnet and takes down the world’s industrial infrastructure overnight. From there, it’s only a developmental hop, skip, and jump from burly killer robots with inexplicable Austrian accents emerging from the rubble.

Great story line - but here's the problem. Computers don't have the human desire to dominate. You have doubts? Ask the computers who won Jeopardy if they 'enjoyed' the game. You won't even get a blink.

12 posted on 02/16/2011 7:25:51 AM PST by GOPJ (http://hisz.rsoe.hu/alertmap/index2.php - World Disaster Map)
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And this whole concept is interesting why?


15 posted on 02/16/2011 7:29:06 AM PST by handmade
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I watched the NOVA special on Watson and his programmers. The singularity is not here yet.

NOVA Smartest Machine on Earth

When Watson was trying out for the show the host kept making fun of his responses when he got it wrong and the programmers took it very personally. "Why does he have to ridicule Watson?"

17 posted on 02/16/2011 7:34:26 AM PST by Sawdring
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So, Watson has access to Google while in play.
That’s cheating.


18 posted on 02/16/2011 7:35:17 AM PST by TexasPatriot1 (I am unique, Just like everybody else.)
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I’ve been a long-time Jeopardy fan, but I tuned out about half way through the second episode of the IBM infomercial hosted by Alex Trebek last night. I hope Brad Rutter and Ken Jennings got some decent coin from the producers via IBM for playing patsy to this sham.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 7:40:25 AM PST by ssaftler (Barack Obama - Setting new highs in low for politicians worldwide)
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"You don't want to know what machines did to your mother last night, Trebek!"
24 posted on 02/16/2011 7:40:58 AM PST by JRios1968 (Laz would hit it!)
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I’ll bet the Jeopardy folks will tilt the playing field with a category like “Metaphors”, or “Joke Punchlines”, or “Answers to Riddles”.

Picture a computer answering these:

“Red badge” became a literary metaphor for this wartime occurrence. (What is a wound?)

A man does this standing up, a woman sitting down, and a dog does it on three legs. (What is shake hands?)

In the childhood riddle, this is “black and white and read all over”. (What is a newspaper?)

Concepts of love, truth, beauty, justice, poetry and idiom will NEVER be fully comprehended by silicon and binary impulses.
That is our ace in the hole (to use an idiom).


29 posted on 02/16/2011 7:51:21 AM PST by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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A man in the loop supercomputer system would have done even better.


31 posted on 02/16/2011 7:53:22 AM PST by bvw
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I saw it and a couple of things struck me:

First off, IBM wouldn’t do this if their computer was going to lose - so it’s a setup in that regard.

Second, The questions that “Watson” gets every time are excessively verbose - with lots of key search terms. What IBM has created is an “turbo google” capability.

Third, questions that are abstract in any way (like the final question) are a complete fail for the computer.

So - this is gamed by IBM for publicity. Their computer is no more complex than a search engine in retrieving answers - it just does it faster.

I also suspect the two human contestants are paid not to walk off the set for this BS sideshow.


33 posted on 02/16/2011 7:55:49 AM PST by RFEngineer
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A key part to winning on Jeopardy is to be fast on the signal button without being so fast that you lock yourself out. That was one of the reasons Jennings had so long of a streak -- he was comfortable with the signal button and developed a rhythm.

The computer can react faster than either of them.

35 posted on 02/16/2011 8:06:09 AM PST by Tanniker Smith (I didn't know she was a liberal when I married her.)
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Maybe we could get Watson to finish out Obama’s term for him. He couldn’t do any worse.


38 posted on 02/16/2011 8:23:08 AM PST by Wizdum (Wisdom is what you gain when things go wrong.)
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