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Words to die by: Sobriety 'bores' Sheen
NYPost ^ | February 15, 2011 | DON KAPLAN

Posted on 02/16/2011 3:43:17 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies

Hard-partying Charlie Sheen admitted yesterday that sobriety "bores" him and that he may revert to his old booze- and drug-fueled lifestyle at any moment.

In a surreal call to a sports talks radio show, the troubled "Two and a Half Men" star declared himself fit enough to work after less than 10 days in rehab.

"I was sober for five years a long time ago and was just bored out of my tree," he said during the rambling 28-minute phone interview with DirecTV/Fox Sports Radio's "The Dan Patrick Show."

"It's inauthentic -- it's not who I am. I didn't drink for 12 years and, man, that first one [drink], Dan. Wow."

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KEYWORDS: acohol; alcoholism; charliesheen
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To: Puppage

He’s lived in a velvet trap. Wealth and Hollywood.

Our minds are fantastic organs that need challenges. His mind is wired/rewarded now by drugs. When he is off drugs, his mind has problems. He is infact happier, stimulated under drugs. He is honest and correct. However, like his social Hollywood/wealth trap, he just traded it in for another trap.

He would be very uncomfortable, impatient undertaking any sober challenge, which all of us prosper under even if not materially rewarded.

Further, he is socially trapped as his persona. If he was to be a new Charlie Sheen, most people would consciously or un consciously want to experienced him as the public, clown Charlie Sheen.


21 posted on 02/16/2011 5:25:34 AM PST by Leisler (Our debts are someone's profit. Follow the money, the vig.....)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

“Sobriety ‘bores’ Sheen”

Sobriety bore me too, Charlie but in the real world, most of us have to go to work,stay sober just to make a paycheck.

We don’t have the luxury of getting drunk,doing lines off a hookers belly and then not showing up for work while entering rehab.

We would lose our jobs.


22 posted on 02/16/2011 5:31:45 AM PST by Le Chien Rouge
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To: databoss

“...premature death is surely his fate...”

People want to be right, don’t they? When the preferred image of somebody else is negative, they are put off by and uncomfortable with the notion that they may have misjudged or maligned another person’s character from afar.

I’m not defending Charlie’s lifestyle as much as I’m pointing out how some people may not wish him well and that it’s only human nature to want to be right even if it means the downfall or continued suffering of another person who for whatever reason, appears to be a hopeless case.


23 posted on 02/16/2011 5:32:14 AM PST by equaviator ("There's a (datum) plane on the horizon coming in...see it?")
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To: equaviator

I’ve spoken to thousands of alcoholics over the past ten years of sobriety, and I can tell you that your position is just plain wrong. No matter how long the period of abstinence, an addicted person will quickly, if not instantly revert to their former pattern of consumption, if not worse. There is a tendency to “Make up for lost time”.


24 posted on 02/16/2011 5:34:24 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Sobriety, my a$$. When a drunk, alcoholic A-hole stops drinking, what do you think he becomes? An alcoholic A-hole of course. There is definitely a certain type of insanity associated with alcoholic thinking. For instance - “social crack smoking”! WTH is social crack smoking?


25 posted on 02/16/2011 5:40:37 AM PST by Jack of all Trades (Stop the change - I want to get off!)
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To: Gargantua

Charlie needs to be understood and embraced, not ridiculed by your mean-spirited heartless rant. Don’t you understand that creative genius’ like Charlie have special needs, are not like you and me. . .Charlie is crying out for help and needs our support. . a hand to hold. . a shoulder to cry. . .ah. .urg. ...burb. .OMG. . BBBBAAAARRRFFFFFFFFFF...I just barfed on myself!!!


26 posted on 02/16/2011 5:40:49 AM PST by McBuff
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
IMO alcohol and its pervasiveness is (from the psychological--not physical POV) a bit like a cult.

Very much like a cult and alcoholics have an uncanny ability to find and support other alcoholics. They also are very good at demonizing those who do not, directly or indirectly, support their addiction. The alcoholic is also very, very cunning in that they can "justify" their actions and often you read comments on FR where there is no doubt the poster is "protecting his alcohol". Life on the sober side is not boring. The alcoholic, like lots of other people, just have lost the ability to even know what living a life of serenity and joy even is. So sad.

27 posted on 02/16/2011 5:50:02 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: Gargantua
The time for cutey-boy party-pig was back in your teens, twenties, or, really pushing it, thirties.

I confess that I have only watched one episode of "Two and a half men" and that at the behest of a golfing buddy who loves the show.

And what I saw was 30 minutes of cutey-boy, party-pig antics.

Art imitating life or life imitating art?

Sheen needs a full-time hobby to replace the elbow and nose exercises of his current one.

28 posted on 02/16/2011 5:55:30 AM PST by N. Theknow (Kennedys: Can't skipper a boat, Can't drive, Can't ski, Can't fly. But they KNOW what's best!)
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To: LuvFreeRepublic
Life on the sober side is not boring. The alcoholic, like lots of other people, just have lost the ability to even know what living a life of serenity and joy even is.

Bears repeating!

That said, I don't think it is "sad." Getting the most out of life is a real fight! It is by no means easy...and that alone gives it value.

29 posted on 02/16/2011 6:00:41 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies ('And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?' Yeats)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

What'll it be?

30 posted on 02/16/2011 6:04:41 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Charlie’s problem is that he’s still alive.


31 posted on 02/16/2011 6:07:08 AM PST by Huck (one per-center)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
Thanks for your comment, but what I meant by “sad” is that we don't even know and/or can no longer even recognize what serenity and inner joy is. I have found it again after living with an alcoholic for 30 years. My goal in life is to help others, especially my kids, experience and recognize serenity, even if it last for only a short period of time. Once you have had a taste of IT, it becomes a driving force (a real fight) for change that is incredible. All my best to those who are recovering.
32 posted on 02/16/2011 6:07:24 AM PST by LuvFreeRepublic (Support our military or leave. I will help you pack BO!)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

When I watch Charlie Sheen destroy his life, I think of Robert Downey Jr and how he came back from hitting bottom. I’m so glad that RD pulled it together. From what I understand, he’s even developed some Conservative viewpoints. (There are mircles in Hollywood)

I doubt that Charlie Sheen has the ability to change, even for the sake of his children.


33 posted on 02/16/2011 6:15:00 AM PST by navymom1
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To: LuvFreeRepublic

Amen!


34 posted on 02/16/2011 6:22:59 AM PST by SonOfDarkSkies ('And what rough beast, its hour come round at last, slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?' Yeats)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies

Watching Charlie is like watching a fast trainwreck, not a slow one. The boy is in deep trouble and nothing will get him out of it except prayer and the acknowledgment of the higher power that gives him the privilege of taking that next breath.


35 posted on 02/16/2011 6:33:18 AM PST by hecticskeptic
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To: equaviator

You know nothing about addiction


36 posted on 02/16/2011 6:55:02 AM PST by al baby (Hi Mom!!! <sarc>)
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To: SonOfDarkSkies
"It's inauthentic -- it's not who I am. I didn't drink for 12 years and, man, that first one [drink], Dan. Wow."

this is what is known as a "reservation" Charlie.

37 posted on 02/16/2011 7:21:00 AM PST by Hacksaw (Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy” — H.L. Mencken)
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To: equaviator
The longer a person is sober the less chemically dependent they are.

If a person is chemically dependent, he can be sober for years but will use just as addictively as before if they start again.

38 posted on 02/16/2011 7:24:04 AM PST by Hacksaw (Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere, may be happy” — H.L. Mencken)
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To: fatnotlazy
Back in the mid 1970s I had a two hour alcohol and drug awareness lecture given by a Catholic priest (on film) for Naval Reserve training. The good father made several unforgettable points:

1. It does no good to send an alcoholic or druggie to rehab or detox until they have decided to change their behavior.

2. A change in behavior comes from the realization that the alcohol and/or drugs are killing you.

3, This realization only comes when the abuser hits “bottom” and there is no more denial and no place else to go.

4. Unfortunately, far too many abusers never hit “bottom” and the booze and drugs kill them first.

Analysis: Charlie Sheen is deadman walking.

39 posted on 02/16/2011 8:21:23 AM PST by MasterGunner01 (To err is human; to forgive is not our policy. -- SEAL Team SIX)
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To: equaviator

He doesn’t want to quit. You have to want to quit first to get over addiction.

He’s “Leaving Las Vegas.”


40 posted on 02/16/2011 8:23:00 AM PST by dfwgator
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