The Muslim Brotherhood, Nazis and Al-Qaeda

canada free press ^ | Wednesday, October 11, 2006 | By John Loftus, Jewish Community News 4/10/06

[RC one]

I had an unusual education in the Holocaust. When I was working for the Attorney General, I was assigned to do the classified research about the Holocaust, so I went underground to a little town called Suitland, Maryland, right outside Washington, D.C., and that's where the U.S. government buries its secrets -- literally.

I learned that many of the Nazis that I had been assigned to prosecute were on the CIA payroll, but the CIA didn't know they were Nazis because the British Intelligence Service had lied to them. What the British Intelligence Service didn't know was that their liar was Kim Philby, the Soviet communist double agent -- a little scandal of the Cold War. But our State Department swept it all under the rug and allowed the Nazis to stay in America until I was stupid enough to go public with it.

Here's how you can find all of the missing secrets about the Muslim Brotherhood -- and you can do this, too. I said, "Bob, go to your computer and type in two words into the search part. Type the word "Banna," B-a-n-n-a. He said, "Yeah." Type in "Nazi." Bob typed the two words in, and out came 30 to 40 articles from around the world. He read them and called me back and said, "Oh my gosh, what have we done?"

What I'm doing today is doing what I'm doing now: I'm educating a new generation in the CIA that the Muslim Brotherhood was a fascist organization that was hired by Western intelligence that evolved over time into what we today know as al-Qaeda.

Here's how the story began...

[RC one]

Just trying to start a dialectic on the Muslim Brotherhood. I had to butcher the original article pretty bad due to the copyright/excerpt feature but it really is an interesting read.

[joesjane]

I don't want to be a word nazi (no pun intended) but do you mean dialog?

[RC one]

dialectic: the art or practice of logical discussion as employed in investigating the truth of a theory or opinion.
Thanks for your contribution.

[eclecticEel]

Here's how you can find all of the missing secrets about the Muslim Brotherhood -- and you can do this, too. I said, "Bob, go to your computer and type in two words into the search part.

I guess reading stuff on the internets constitutes proof?

The whole story is uncredible. The world doesn't revolve around us; Jihadists have their own reasons for doing what they do - reasons that date back 1200 years.

[Vendome]

I was thinking the same thing.

dialectic?

Are you trying to set up an argument of the Muslim Brotherhood of pros and cons or Muslim Brotherhood against reasonable society?

[joesjane]

Thank you for increasing my vocabulary !!!

[paulycy]

We don’t need to over-exercise our dialectical skills to know that the Muslim Brotherhood’s goals include a worldwide Caliphate and the end of western civilization.

To this end they are currently using subterfuge, violence and whatever destructive tools they can find.

Maybe first we should discuss how to exterminate them THEN we can take our time and talk about them in self-satisfyingly academic discussion circles.

[Sherman Logan]

We strive so desperately to fit the ideologies of other cultures into our fascist/nazi/communist paradigm.

Sometimes they just don’t fit that well.

[Elle Bee]

Iran means aryan

The Nazis suggested the name in WW2

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[RC one]

I’m always just trying to find the truth. In this case, I have heard/read American leftists asserting that the Muslim Brotherhood is a peaceful organization that would be preferable to Mubarik. According to the author of this article, nothing could be further from the truth. Of course, you can’t believe everything you read on the internet so I put it to the free republic test in order to, hopefully, derive the truth through discussion. I like the word dialectic because I believe that more accurately describes what we are all doing on the internet, trying to discover and understand the truth of various matters through vigorous, intelligent, and, often, heated debate. I never care if I’m wrong so long as I walk away knowing what the truth is.

[Sherman Logan]

Unhistorical.

The term has been used by most peoples of the area to refer to their country since at least the time of the Sassanids, whose Kings referred to themselves as the “Kings of Aryan and non-Aryan.” With Aryan (Iran) referring to the plateau and mountain country we now call Persia/Iran and “non-Aryan” referring to their conquests outside this area.

You are correct that the term was adopted and exploited (and misused) by the Nazis, but it goes back long before then. Thousands of years in India. They did the same thing with the swastika, BTW, which had a long and generally honorable history before they polluted it.

The Shah requested foreign countries use the term Iran in 1935, not during WWII. In 1935 the Germans were not yet exactly dominant in world affairs.

I’m afraid this is another example of trying to make everything done by other cultures a reaction to our own.

[Vendome]

I dig your perspective.

Fauxbama is not a NBC.

He is merely a citizen...maybe

[Defend Liberty]

Islam is a very peaceful and tolerant religion.

Islam is far more than a religion. It is a political ideology with its own set of laws and court system. Religion is only one component of islam and is used to impose islam on non muslim societies. Sharia law is anathema to the U.S. Constitution. The two cannot coexist in the U.S.

[RC one]

and sometimes they do. Hassan al-Banna is the Egyptian founder of the Muslim Brotherhood and he did collaborate with Hitler. I think the article is probably right on target.

Hassan al-Banna - Hassan al-Banna (Arabic: حسن البنا) was born October 14, 1906 and died February 12, 1949. Al Banna was a radical Islamist and founder of the Egyptian Muslim Brotherhood (Jamaat al-Ikhwan al-Muslimun). Al-Banna launched the Society of the Muslim Brotherhood in March of 1928. The brotherhood was extremist and violent from its inception. It's motto is, "God is our purpose, the Prophet our leader, the Qur'an our constitution, Jihad our way and dying for God's cause our supreme objective." Al-Banna was quite clear that his goal was not solely an anti-colonialist struggle in Egypt nor the refurbishment of Islam, but rather a world revolution that would establish Islam as the dominant religion of the entire world: The growth of the Muslim Brotherhood was accompanied or caused in part by the fact that Al-Banna associated it with the German Nazi party and the Third Reich. From the ideological point of view, the Jew hatred, authoritarianism, addiction to violence and desire to defeat the British of both the Muslim Brothers and the Nazis were quite enough to make the two movements find common cause. The Brotherhood’s political and military alliance with Nazi Germany blossomed into formal state visits, de facto ambassadors, and overt and covert joint ventures. The Muslim Brotherhood transformed Nazi anti-Semitism into a Muslim version, providing Arab translations of Mein Kampf (translated into Arabic as “My Jihad”) and other Nazi anti-Semitic works, including Der Sturmer hate-cartoons, adapted to portray the Jew as the demonic enemy of Allah rather than the German Volk.

[eclecticEel]

I have heard/read American leftists asserting that the Muslim Brotherhood is a peaceful organization

I don't know where you're hearing that; it's certainly not the case. They're violent Islamists who (among other things) were responsible for the assassination of Anwar Sadat. Although the majority of what they do is mostly unobjectable charitable activity (founding orphanages, providing for widows); it all just serves to build goodwill among the populace for their other, malignant activities.

[RC one]

Democratic Underground, of course. It’s interesting that a leftist site would be advocating for the Muslim Brotherhood. The American left’s anti-semetism is showing again. But we’re the racists.

[Ditto]

I'm not sure Loftis is the most authoritative source available. He was 4 years as a Lt. in Army intel and 2 years with the Justice Dept, then 20 years later has all of this ‘experience.” Not likely.
Some of his linkages seem to be stretching credibility and paint him as the only honest man who ever laid his eyes on top secret material.

A very large cup of skepticism is in order here.

[RC one]

there seems to be an abundance of information to support, at least some of his claims though. Google “banna nazi” as he asked. I think he's probably spot on. We know that the Muslim Brotherhood is the progenitor of the Mujaheddin and that the CIA recruited them for “Charlie Wilson's war” and that Al Queda is the offspring of the Mujaheddin. The dots are connecting up and forming a pretty clear; yet, still incomplete picture.

[Sherman Logan]

Of course the MB allied itself with the Nazis. They were fighting for (what they saw as) their freedom from British occupation. When we did the same we allied ourselves with an absolutist monarchy, despite the fact we were fighting for republican ideals.

Where did you think Arab rebels would look for support? They looked to the enemies of their enemies, just as the Irish did.

Don’t get me wrong, I’m no fan of Islam or especially Islamists. But to try to say Islamism “is” fascism is I think a step too far. It’s certainly been influenced by it, as unfortunately has our own society. The most important roots of Islamism go far into their own history and culture. The various European ideological features are sort of tacked on for decoration.

Depending of course on your definition of fascism.

I’ve seen similar “explanations” for Japanese militarism of the 30s and 40s, as if Japan didn’t have sufficient militarism in its own history to explain things.

Other cultures are able to come up with bad things without necessarily copying them from western civ.

[RC one]

Of course the MB allied itself with the Nazis. They were fighting for (what they saw as) their freedom from British occupation.

Al-Banna was quite clear that his goal was not solely an anti-colonialist struggle in Egypt nor the refurbishment of Islam, but rather a world revolution that would establish Islam as the dominant religion of the entire world:

"we will not stop at this point [i.e., “freeing Egypt from secularism and modernity”], but will pursue this evil force to its own lands, invade its Western heartland, and struggle to overcome it until all the world shouts by the name of the Prophet and the teachings of Islam spread throughout the world. Only then will Muslims achieve their fundamental goal… and all religion will be exclusively for Allah." Hassan al-Bannan-founder of the Muslim Brotherhood (Habeck, Knowing the enemy p. 120)

i'adat al Khalifa al Mafqudah (restoration of the lost Caliphate or, IOW, "world domination")- is the chief immediate political goal of the Islamist movement. http://www.mideastweb.org/Middle-EastEncyclopedia/hassan_al-banna.htm