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I'm tired of hearing some people, even from FR say that we need to "rise above the fray"!
Saturday January 22, 2011

Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike

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To: Balding_Eagle; Yukon
Bet you can't back that up with examples.

Oh, I surely can. Look for posts between yukon and those with whom he spars.

41 posted on 01/22/2011 10:50:40 AM PST by GingisK
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To: Bigtigermike

It’s like saying we can overcome AIDS by ignoring it.

Leftists are more deadly than all the diseases, wars, and natural disasters in all of human history combined.

We need to annihilate them all or there is no chance for continued survival.


42 posted on 01/22/2011 10:52:05 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: NoGrayZone
I just went back and reread the comment. Where on earth do you see "crude and abusive language" in his post?

Now go read all of my posts again. I did not accuse him of any such thing.

43 posted on 01/22/2011 10:52:05 AM PST by GingisK
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To: GingisK

George Washington was a good man but he left a lot to be desired as a President. He relied far too much on Alexander Hamilton who believed that only rich intellectuals should be involved in Govt.


44 posted on 01/22/2011 10:53:08 AM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: Bigtigermike

Many forget that the HLSA before the shooter was even booked claimed that some “right-Wing” website was responsible for the shootings. That claim stood for at least 3 days. As the information that became known indicated the site had NOTHING to do with the beliefs of the shooter.

When the Government makes an assertion on absolutely NO evidence. And then QUIETLY, removes the assertion. What would you call that. CLEARLY A PROPAGANDA TACTIC TO GET THE RADICAL LEFTIES ALL WORKED UP. Hence the msm felt embolden to blame anyone and everyone the RABID Lefties find objectionable. (Palin, Rush,Beck etc etc)

To allow the type of accusations to go unchallenged is suicide. They MUST be refuted. To long have Conservs,Repubs, and even some Tea Party members sat back while being called vicious names. The Tea Party has fought back successfully. And due to Palin, Beck,Rush leading the charge, the Rabid Lefts campaign was shown for what it is and stopped. (for now)

Turning the other cheek, only gets a kick in the groin.


45 posted on 01/22/2011 10:53:21 AM PST by Marty62 (Marty 60)
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To: GingisK
Again, please show where CCG used “crude and abusive” language.

You have beared false witness against thy neighbor and need to apologize and ask forgivness.

Until then you will be disregarded.

46 posted on 01/22/2011 10:54:21 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: GingisK

That was uncalled for.


47 posted on 01/22/2011 10:54:26 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: GingisK

But self-governance needs to start with knocking people off of welfare and/or disability, if they’ve gotten better since being awarded disability.

If you’re under 45 and have been on disability (especially a non-physical disability such as bi-polar) for more than 7 years, you should be forced to have a face-to-face review done and your benefits potentially cut in half or cut totally.

I have talked to countless people who are under 45 and have been on disability for 7 years or more who now claim, due to modern medications, they would be able to work, but that it’s just easier to sit back and collect a check each month.

Also, how many times have we seen specials on 20/20 or Dateline where somebody is collecting disability and hopping in and out of sports cars, when they’re supposed to be crippled?

Entitlements are killing us but nobody in Washington has the balls to say it.


48 posted on 01/22/2011 10:54:31 AM PST by library user (Just because you're homeless doesn't mean you're lazy.)
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To: Bigtigermike
We are in a seemingly impossible situation since anything we say, civil or otherwise, is twisted and lied about by the media. However, we do have the truth with Fox News on our side, mostly. I read once that a very small percentage of Americans actually read anything about politics - they vote based on soundbites and their own pocket, or their own single issue (sexual persuasion, abortion, war).

Since the conservative voices are constantly being attacked and lied about, they have to play the game and find key words, issues, and people who can appeal to the 80% who are too dumb or lazy to even listen to the news.

The economy is issue number one. That is all that most people can related to. Sometimes I think we could attract more voters if we advertised like a beer commercial.

49 posted on 01/22/2011 10:54:37 AM PST by WhyisaTexasgirlinPA ("The View" is the new Maury Povich inspired "Fight Club in Heels")
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To: ClearCase_guy

That’s not really going to make any difference. We can’t appeal to them or change them. Leftists are not human, they are worthless pieces of filth who need to be made physically nonexistent asap.

Truth, compassion, courage, integrity, and even love have absolutely no effect on those who love cruelty, self, destruction, and envy above all else.


50 posted on 01/22/2011 10:54:37 AM PST by Soothesayer (smallpox is not a person)
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To: GingisK
Jesus didn't use ANY of the phrases that are in common use today.

No. He used others. And they WERE insults. Grievous ones. Delivered to those in authority.

He also overturned the money lenders tables and drove them from the Temple.

51 posted on 01/22/2011 10:55:14 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: GingisK

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2661533/posts?page=7#7


52 posted on 01/22/2011 10:56:00 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: GingisK

No “crude and abusive language” is in that post. You need to apologize to that poster.


53 posted on 01/22/2011 10:56:08 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: Maelstorm
George Washington was a good man...

He could certainly conduct politicl discourse and even warfare without abusive language. So could all of the Founders. The point I am trying to make is that what passes for political discussions these days seems to involve a lot of personnal attacks and abusive language. This doesn't help with finding a solution of any kind.

Each of us needs to be careful to deliver our arguments in the most effictive way possible. This includes remaining civil and free of abuse.

54 posted on 01/22/2011 10:56:55 AM PST by GingisK
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To: NoGrayZone
If you are the "Christian" you claim to be, you will apologize to CCG for such a false accusation.

I did no such thing.

All of this is what I am talking about. We seem so rerady and willing to make an argument out of anything. The willingness to take offense is foremost in our conversations.

55 posted on 01/22/2011 10:58:53 AM PST by GingisK
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To: FrankR

Let’s see if he actually does. He now claims he did not do such a thing. The good thing about FR is that you CAN’T amend what you have posted.

‘You shall not bear false witness against your neighbor.’

Which is exactly what that poster did.


56 posted on 01/22/2011 10:59:29 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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To: Bigtigermike

I agree, we should fight back, as persistently as we can, and we should let our anger show. The left is terrified of Palin, they should also be terrified of what we can do. I am not talking about violence, I am talking about verbal confrontation every single day.


57 posted on 01/22/2011 10:59:53 AM PST by Judith Anne (Holy Mary, Mother of God, please pray for us sinners now, and at the hour of our death.)
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To: GingisK

So you were intentionally rude and lied about another poster simply to prove the point that others are rude? What hypocrisy.


58 posted on 01/22/2011 11:01:41 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: library user

You are right. Loughner was a truther but not much news about it even from conservatives who seem more interested in attacking Birthers who are at the most harmless. The left always gets a pass and that needs to change. They say crap that is baseless and untrue to create false impressions in the public at large. Its a form of attempted mind control and the only way to counter it is to make sure the truth is presented just as strongly as their lies. It also means using ridicule to deflate them and their often idiotic ideas. Those who think you can split the difference and offer credence to lies are nuts. Silence is what the left needs to make sure they dominate and define the political landscape. Ask George Bush what ignoring his critics and playing nice got him? Ask Sarah Palin? If we play nice one day we’ll wake up and find all we love about America gone and will have no idea what happened.


59 posted on 01/22/2011 11:01:41 AM PST by Maelstorm (Better to keep your enemy in your sights than in your camp expecting him to guard your back.)
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To: GingisK

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/chat/2661533/posts?page=7#7

READ YOUR POST.


60 posted on 01/22/2011 11:01:45 AM PST by NoGrayZone (Democrats truly are the party of unintended consequences. Stupid is as stupid does.)
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