I *am* the fray.
Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.
Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
INDEED.
Maybe I can try again . . .
it was akin to . . .
Rush often rides the folks from RioLinda. I know it’s a joke. I still think he could make better jokes without insulting the good people in RioLinda. Anyone could.
If I’d posted that to say Joya;
If she were being hastey, she could get all wound up inferring that I was accusing her of insulting the folks from RioLinda.
But I did nothing of the kind. I merely made an observation as GingisK madea bout Christ’s use of language.
IT MIGHT HAVE APPEARED that HE WAS INFERRING that his correspondent was using language contrary to Christ’s
BUT HE DID NOT SAY THAT. AND THE READER HAS TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR
INFERENCE
AS MUCH AS THEY SCREAM FOR GINGISK TO TAKE RESPONSIBILITY FOR HIS WORDING.
I *am* the fray.
Too true.
He could certainly conduct politicl discourse and even warfare without abusive language
Beck has proven you wrong.
NO! Beck merely proved that while
George Washington COULD do so
he did not 100% ALWAYS do so.
Actually, I have found GingisK to be quite humble, contrite, introspective and congruent.
Of course, being human, he’s not perfect.
Actually, the puppet masters have been setting up civil-war for a long time.
They want maximum deaths . . . to help reduce the population globally to 200 million.
They are deliberately responsible for making things shrill and hostile between interest groups.
They will light off both civil war and WWIII as well as a lot of man made disasters.
I think that post was a bit more uncalled for than any poor choice of paragraphing on GingisK’s part.
You bemoan that "examination of ideas is gone from FR", and in the very next breath, you hurl an ad hominem at the most popular, most effective conservative fighter of our time.
You're a hypocrite, you know that? No wonder you're whining about this site.
INDEED. Good points.
Did you happen to catch how he disparaged another FReeper’s Christianity? When we called him on it, suddenly it was our problem for not understanding his nuance.
He’s a troll.
I LOVE YOU BROTHER.
I LOVE YOUR HEART.
I LOVE YOUR COURAGE.
I LOVE YOUR STRENGTH AND TENACITY.
I’M GRIEVED THAT YOU’VE BEEN SHREDDED SOOOO AND SOOO UNNECESSARILY.
That only works with rational, civilized people. The left is neither. They're a barbarian horde - a pestilence that has infected the body politic, and is eating its brain out while debilitating its limbs.
There is no reasoning or being "civil" with monsters who are trying to devour you alive.
I understand your feelings and your thinking.
I have enough experience with GingisK to know that he is
A VERY TRUE PATRIOT, CONSERVATIVE, HIGHLY HONORABLE AND
NOT A TROLL.
I found this interesting little quote on your “About Page”:
“Sometimes meek, shy, retiring, and just trying to get along, can be just as effective as lukewarm puke.”
It reminded me of GingisK and your slathering support of the mess he’s made of the discussion her
JCe...
her = here
Well, if Quix vouches for you, you must be alright.
But considering how you had 90% of the posters howling for your blood, you might not want to rely on "nuance" in your communication. It's like the guy who keeps getting beaten up in the bar claiming to be a lovable drunk.
I seem to know GingisK’s heart better than y’all.
I also don’t have a knee jerk need to shred someone based on assumption and inference.
Thanks.
Certainly when emotions are high and the topic is a naturally intense one.
being very clear and specific with language can be . . .
the difference between life and death.
However, some folks have varying degrees of aspergers, autism etc.
NOT BECAUSE OF PERVERSITY, DISINGENUOUSNESS, HYPOCRISY, ETC.
BUT BECAUSE
LITERALLY THEIR BRAINS ARE TRULY LITERALLY ‘WIRED’ DIFFERENTLY
as fMRI’s and PET scans show.
This particularly impacts their language and social skills.
NOW BEFORE SOMEONE INFERS AND ASSUMES
that I just indicated that GingisK has aspergers or autism—It did NOT.
GINGISK himself noted his wife knows him to be clumsy in social situations and entering conversations.
I personally don’t find that sufficient reason to dogpile him and shred him.
I value his values and his heart for holding those values. I value him as a fellow conservative of high integrity and good intent. I also see him as one of the more humble on FR.
Yes, he might do well to be more precise in language—particularly on heated threads and topics.
The same could be said of ALL OF US AT ONE TIME OR ANOTHER ON FR.
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