Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
My wife picked my screen moniker for me for exactly this reason.
Jesus spoke Aramaic. He called the Pharisees "Fools," "Hypocrites," "Serpents" and "Blind Guides."
You're still a weasel.
Matthew 23:1 - 39
Then Jesus said to the crowds and to his disciples: “The teachers of the law and the Pharisees sit in Moses’ seat. So you must be careful to do everything they tell you. But do not do what they do, for they do not practice what they preach. They tie up heavy, cumbersome loads and put them on other people’s shoulders, but they themselves are not willing to lift a finger to move them.
“Everything they do is done for people to see: They make their phylacteries wide and the tassels on their garments long; they love the place of honor at banquets and the most important seats in the synagogues; they love to be greeted with respect in the marketplaces and to be called ‘Rabbi’ by others.
“But you are not to be called ‘Rabbi,’ for you have one Teacher, and you are all brothers. And do not call anyone on earth ‘father,’ for you have one Father, and he is in heaven. Nor are you to be called instructors, for you have one Instructor, the Messiah. The greatest among you will be your servant. For those who exalt themselves will be humbled, and those who humble themselves will be exalted.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the door of the kingdom of heaven in people’s faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You travel over land and sea to win a single convert, and when you have succeeded, you make them twice as much a child of hell as you are.
“Woe to you, blind guides! You say, ‘If anyone swears by the temple, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gold of the temple is bound by that oath.’ You blind fools! Which is greater: the gold, or the temple that makes the gold sacred? You also say, ‘If anyone swears by the altar, it means nothing; but anyone who swears by the gift on the altar is bound by that oath.’ You blind men! Which is greater: the gift, or the altar that makes the gift sacred? Therefore, anyone who swears by the altar swears by it and by everything on it. And anyone who swears by the temple swears by it and by the one who dwells in it. And anyone who swears by heaven swears by God’s throne and by the one who sits on it.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You give a tenth of your spices—mint, dill and cumin. But you have neglected the more important matters of the law—justice, mercy and faithfulness. You should have practiced the latter, without neglecting the former. You blind guides! You strain out a gnat but swallow a camel.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You clean the outside of the cup and dish, but inside they are full of greed and self-indulgence. Blind Pharisee! First clean the inside of the cup and dish, and then the outside also will be clean.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You are like whitewashed tombs, which look beautiful on the outside but on the inside are full of the bones of the dead and everything unclean. In the same way, on the outside you appear to people as righteous but on the inside you are full of hypocrisy and wickedness.
“Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You build tombs for the prophets and decorate the graves of the righteous. And you say, ‘If we had lived in the days of our ancestors, we would not have taken part with them in shedding the blood of the prophets.’ So you testify against yourselves that you are the descendants of those who murdered the prophets. Go ahead, then, and complete what your ancestors started!
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.
“Jerusalem, Jerusalem, you who kill the prophets and stone those sent to you, how often I have longed to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, and you were not willing. Look, your house is left to you desolate. For I tell you, you will not see me again until you say, ‘Blessed is he who comes in the name of the Lord.’”
I'm well armed and of the mind to easily use force. I can, however, tell the difference between political discussions and time of true strife.
We need to be deep in the fray, but with facts instead of imitating the lies and name calling of the left.
We ARE better than them, let’s act the part!
I believe in calling a liar a liar, a thief a thief and thug a thug.
If you lack coping skills to deal with it, and disolve in a fit of the vapors, it's not my problem.
Perhaps the political discussions you have heard are different than those I have heard. I don't recall Jesus making reference to one's genitals or sexual relationships with one's self or mother. You seem to be referring to verbal pillow fights.
Which is fine and dandy. However, when you choose to use The Lord as your backup, you better be willing to admit when you're wrong. He passed false judgment against you and needs to publicly apologize and ask for forgiveness.
Normally I would say such a thing should be private; however, he falsely accused you in public. Therefore, it needs to be done for all to see.
Very well said!
Please, go back to your post #7. Read it carefully. You need to apologize to ClearCase for your false accusations against him.
Most of us had to eat crow here. It sucks, but needs to be done when warranted. An apology and asking for forgiveness goes a LONG way here.....more so in Gods Kingdom.
Don’t know about Dole; but McCain knew he was going to lose.
Don’t know about Dole; but McCain knew he was going to lose.
See my #18.
The only such discourse I've seen on FR is when a certain member made a very crude reference to my mother. He was suspended and the post was pulled.
Outside FR, the only genital references are from the otherside when they refer to TEA Party members as "Tea Baggers." If you're used to seeing such, perhaps you've wandered off of DU or KOS by mistake.
Regardless, you should be very cautious when posting such comments because you seem to be making accusations. Either post links to your accusations or stop the slander. As it is, your dispariging remarks are smearing Free Republic.
To ALCON; "GingisK" (Gingis Kerry?) claimed Jesus never used "harsh language." I posted Matthew 23 to prove otherwise.
Would saying 'Urinate off!' fit into your lofty requirement?
I did see your post #18. However, it has nothing to do with ClearGuy. You attacked him personally, for something "someone else" might have stated.
That is why I think you should apologize to him. You cannot blame 1 person for others statements, which you have done.
Jesus still called the Pharisees hypocrites, vipers and blind guides.
There's a difference between truth and abuse.
I hear extreme vulgarity at work, and I see it posted on Facebook pages. This is precisely why I posted my admonition (ie, reminder) in the first place. "Being tired of hearing some people, even from FR say that we need to "rise above the fray"" is an stance with I will take issue. We aren't going to make political headway if we "sink to the fray".
It seems that you and many others here want to "get with the fray". You certainly want to work hard at taking issue with the point I'm trying to make by attacking me merely because I rather clumsily injected by comment.
“I tend to come more from the opinion of smile sweetly as you stick the knife in their eye.”
“No quarter to liberals. Ever.”
I say lets just get down in the gutter and roll around with them and kick their azz. Is that hate speech?
#18 was addressed to ClearCaseGuy.
Same here but it started with his first post.
Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.