Posted on 01/22/2011 10:24:53 AM PST by Bigtigermike
I'm sick and tire some on our side buying into the myth that if we just "rise above the fray" from attacks that are scurrilous and baseless that we will somehow win the arguments against us! That's pure bull!
We are playing right into the hands of the MSM and liberals when we act civil and honorable "according to their rules of acting civil and honorable" which is to shut up and sit down about conservatism and not fight back. The only kind of people that the left and MSM consider honorable are people like Bob Dole and John McCain both of whom lost by not fighting.
Speaking of McCain, notice how 'civil' he was in 2008 "[Senator Obama] is a decent person and a person that you do not have to be scared about as President of the United States,". There's a difference between rhetoric and record, but you can still be respectful," McCain said to one questioner. "I will point out his record and I will do it with respect."
Did Obama act respectful and civil? Linking President Bush and Senator John McCain as partners in “the failed policies” of the past seven years and criticizing them for “hypocrisy, fear peddling, fear mongering.”? "They're going to try to make you afraid of me. They're going to say you know what, "He's young and inexperienced and he's got a funny name. Did I mention he's black?"
The MSM called McCain's rallies vitriolic and tinged with racism and hateful but said that Obama has run a clean, non-slanderous campaign and deserves respect. He is the one that wishes to address the issues and look how wonderful Obama is, he will help heal the nation.!!!
What happened in 2008 is almost happening in 2011 with the attacks on Sarah over the Tucson attacks; Barack Obama stood back for days and let his supporters in the media and left rip Palin apart, only then to proclaim that we don't really know what happened in Tuscon and let the media narrative was how wonderful Obama is!
But this time Sarah fought back after a few days and only had a few choice towards the media, and the left and media STILL ATTACKED HER OVER IT'!
If all the others here or pundits like Dick Morris or even FOX NEWS are gonna sit around and watch this happen and say "don't do nothing" or be tepid in a response at best then they need a brain analysis. If Conservatives cannot defend themselves over these baseless, libelous charges then they got no business running. period!
Do you actually feel well protocted by harsh language during political discourse?
"Jesus did the same without crude and abusive language. As a Christian, I'd suggest you try that model."
Now if that wasn't an unwarranted slam, I don't know what one is.
I couldn’t agree more. The whole problem with the Republican establishment has been their reluctance to fight back.
BTW, I’m with you. I’ll stay here in my fray, thank you very much.
Are there trenches in Congress? Are there trenches at the neighborhood party?
It is pretty important to understand the difference between actual warfare and political discourse, don't you think?
Here is another gem of wisdom from the Founders:
All, too, will bear in mind this sacred principle, that though the will of the majority is in all cases to prevail, that will to be rightful must be reasonable; that the minority possess their equal rights, which equal law must protect, and to violate would be oppression.
--Thomas Jefferson--
This is another point overlooked often in modern politics: Even though we won through a majority vote, we are still responsible for the welfare and interests of the minority.
I suppose you think someone like George Washington would agree with you?
You are just plain wrong on many levels.
The Founding Fathers were not always civil but many think they were. Did they use foul obscene language? No. But they did speak forcefully and at times rudely. No one on FR uses obscenities either.
Have you ever worked w/someone diagnosed w/bipolar disorder?
"He swore that day till the leaves shook on the trees. Charming! Delightful! Never have I enjoyed such swearing before or since. Sir, on that memorable day he swore like an angel from Heaven!"
General Henry Knox describing George Washington at the battle of Monmouth, June 1778.
Civility, dialogue, tolerance, the expression of different points of view all belong to academic debating. Americans are in a real war and right now we are losing. We are faslling under the political control of Third Worlders led
So, you think reason and wit will convince these rabid humans to change? Really?
I can certainly see that everyone seems to think so; however, it truely was not intentionally meant that way. It was meant as an "added concept" to getting verbally active. I threw this in there because I witness a great deal of animosity during political discussions; and, we're headed to a civil war if we can't get civil. Many who argue abusively imagine themselves to be "good Christians".
I’m just a little ticked off that he posted false witness against a fellow FReeper....then goes on to ‘defend’ what he meant.
If you’re not going to post what you mean then don’t post!
Rules for Radicals #4. "Make the enemy live up to its own book of rules."
What does sexual persuasion have to do with how someone votes. I don’t get that...
We are not ready to effectively resist. The grim question being-will we ever be ready to mount effective resistance?
You're the kind of guy who, when the thug breaks into your house and finishes raping your wife, you offer him your daughter and you feel pretty damned proud about it.
Our opponents have physically attacked our fellows because they dared to peacefully protest against an unconstitutional healthcare takeover.
Our candidates' vehicles have tires slashed.
Houses and vehicles with conservative stickers and signs are vadalized.
Our party members are routinely threatened with rape and murder.
Union fat cats and lefty pundits publish addresses of our party and PAC leaders while issuing calls for violence.
Their elected officials brought Code Pink members into the Chamber of Congress where they accosted Condi Rice. Don't you remember? They attempted to smear red paint on her.
The progressives try every dirty trick to silence us.
Then, they accuse us of everything they are doing.
You cannot reason with the unreasonable. If you're not capable of resisting evil, you're part of the problem.
Ya know, I'd respect you more if you just said: "Yeah, I slammed the bastard! So what of it?!"
But you don't seem to have the stomach for any kind of a fight.
What are you wearing right now?
Just curious...
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