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Naming a son Barack Hussein Obama was illegal under Hawaii Law in 1961
Google Books ^ | 1860 | Hawaiian Government

Posted on 01/21/2011 10:43:11 PM PST by bushpilot1

Section 2. All children born in wedlock after the passage of this Act shall have their father’s name as a family name.

They shall, besides, have a Christian name suitable to their sex.

Section 3.. All illegitimate children born after the passage of this Act shall have their mother’s name as a family name. They shall, besides, have a. Christian name suitable to their sex.

This law was in effect until 1967. Barack and Hussein are Semitic words, they are not Christian. They are not from the English language.

How is it possible the birth certificate displayed is legal when the name is illegal.

What is real his real name? Where was he born?

All of this does not really matter..his father is a foreigner. He can never be a natural born citizen. It sure would be nice to know his real name

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To: cynwoody

Thanks. I think I’ll google the Haj and get a little education. ;)


41 posted on 01/21/2011 11:42:40 PM PST by presently no screen name
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To: West Texas Chuck

No, it is not what the gov. is looking for. The form the gov is looking for has name of hospital and attending physician on it.


42 posted on 01/21/2011 11:43:15 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: bushpilot1

I’ve noticed a lot of laws are not enforced.....I think it was no big deal in 1961 for a kid to be given a foreign sounding name


43 posted on 01/21/2011 11:44:02 PM PST by woofie
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To: cynwoody

Looks like a vulva.


44 posted on 01/21/2011 11:44:47 PM PST by kabumpo (Kabumpo)
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To: bushpilot1
Section 3.. All illegitimate children born after the passage of this Act shall have their mother’s name as a family name. They shall, besides, have a. Christian name suitable to their sex.

So what it really means is: have a first name (AKA Christian name) suitable to their sex. So no boys could be named Sue or Fatima or Taniqua and no girls could be named Richard or Ali or Rayshawn.
45 posted on 01/21/2011 11:46:29 PM PST by aruanan
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To: bushpilot1
From here:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Given_name

Christian name

The term Christian name is often used as a general synonym for given name. Strictly speaking, the term applies to a name formally given to a child at an infant baptism or "christening".


46 posted on 01/22/2011 12:00:37 AM PST by TChad
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. . . . . Steve?

Check this out:

http://www.thepostemail.com/2010/01/12/his-name-is-steve-dunham/

47 posted on 01/22/2011 12:04:38 AM PST by LucyT
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To: bushpilot1

I hate to break it to you but almost all “Christian” names are Semitic in origin. Joshua, Joseph, Jude, Jewish.

Most other given names (Christian names) that are not “Biblical” are barbarian in nature.

William - Gild helm. The name a barbarian would take after killing a Roman soldier and taking his shiny helmet.


50 posted on 01/22/2011 12:12:30 AM PST by allmendream (Tea Party did not send the GOP to D.C. to negotiate the terms of our surrender to socialism.)
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To: bushpilot1

Shouldn’t this ridiculous thread be pulled? It is based on a misunderstanding of what “Christian name” means.


51 posted on 01/22/2011 12:17:06 AM PST by TChad
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To: bushpilot1

You’re being too literal about the Christian name thing, OP.

You could have an ethnic, or Hebrew. and Arabic combination name and be a legal citizen. Proof of this is Ellis Island, where names where shortened, but not all changed to Paul and Mary. Jesus was semitic, after all.


52 posted on 01/22/2011 12:21:42 AM PST by harmonium
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To: F15Eagle

McCain is a certified American born citizen.

Obama is the one with the questions.

Let’s not get distracted.


53 posted on 01/22/2011 12:24:25 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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54 posted on 01/22/2011 12:54:30 AM PST by Jeff Chandler (Judas Iscariot - the first social justice advocate. John 12:3-6)
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To: onyx

Arab web sites state his real name (this is translated):

Mamdouh Qenawi, President of the Constitutionalist Party, said that Barack Hussein Obama is a Muslim and the real name is Baraka Hussein Obuamamp.


55 posted on 01/22/2011 12:55:24 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: Jeff Chandler

Was it to me? LOL.


56 posted on 01/22/2011 12:57:37 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: harmonium

Have looked in the 1961 names for male Christians..a listing of 1000 names.

Barry is listed at number 66 for popularity in 1961. Barack is not listed out of a thousand names.


57 posted on 01/22/2011 1:00:16 AM PST by bushpilot1
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To: bushpilot1

No kidding?


58 posted on 01/22/2011 1:01:05 AM PST by onyx (If you truly support Sarah Palin and want to be on her busy ping list, let me know!)
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To: bushpilot1

You can’t be serious. The term “christian name” is old timey for first name. Do you think ethnic hawaiians are all named david and joshua?

Get a clue.

If you wanted to take “christian name” 100% literally then you would have to outlaw names such as “frank” and “scott” and every african-american name ever made up.


59 posted on 01/22/2011 1:01:08 AM PST by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: onyx

go to the google translator..english to arabic..type barack hussein obama..copy the arabic translation..go to google search..paste it be sure the translator is set..

It is not a Christian name.


60 posted on 01/22/2011 1:18:21 AM PST by bushpilot1
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