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Electricity pricing policies may make or break plug-in hybrid buys
Purdue University ^ | January 13, 2011 | Brian Wallheimer

Posted on 01/13/2011 11:43:45 AM PST by decimon

WEST LAFAYETTE, Ind. - California policies aimed at reducing electricity use and curbing greenhouse gas emissions have the unintended consequence of making new plug-in hybrid vehicles uneconomical, according to a Purdue University economist.

Wally Tyner, the James and Lois Ackerman Professor of Agricultural Economics, said California's tiered electricity pricing system means Californians will pay some of the highest electricity rates in the country to recharge plug-in hybrid vehicles. States with flat electricity rates or those that vary price based on the time of use are more economical, according to Tyner's study.

In tiered systems, consumers pay a higher rate for electricity they use beyond a certain amount. California has three rate tiers. It also has a time-of-use system, which reduces the rate during periods of low demand. In addition, Californians pay some of the highest electricity rates - an average of 14.42 cents per kilowatt hour, which is about 35 percent higher than the national average.

"The objective of a tiered pricing system is to discourage consumption. It's meant to get you to think about turning off your lights and conserving electricity. In California, the unintended consequence is that plug-in hybrid cars won't be economical under this system," said Tyner, whose findings were published in the early online version of the journal Energy Policy. "Almost everyone in California reaches the third pricing tier each month. If they add a plug-in hybrid, they are charged the highest rate."

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Society
KEYWORDS: democrats; economy; energy; fail; globalwarming; hybrids; hybridvehicles; liberals; obama; socialism
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1 posted on 01/13/2011 11:43:48 AM PST by decimon
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To: steelyourfaith

Tier this ping.


2 posted on 01/13/2011 11:44:29 AM PST by decimon
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To: decimon
We need electric cars because electricity is free and electric cars produce no greenhouse gases.

</B.S. (Barry. Soetoro.)>

3 posted on 01/13/2011 11:49:01 AM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("If they bring a knife to the fight, we bring a gun." -- Barry Soetoro, June 11, 2008)
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To: decimon

my rate here in IN averages just under 10.5 cents /kWh and about 15% of that is “riders” for emissions, pollution clean coal, etc


4 posted on 01/13/2011 11:53:04 AM PST by digger48
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To: decimon

And yet, as bad as the financial straits are now in CA, they are about to get much worse, now that the fools have just elected Jerry Brown. Amazing, just how idiotic a group of people can be, and yet still remain totally immune to learning any lessons.


5 posted on 01/13/2011 11:53:07 AM PST by jim35 (Tea Party former Republican)
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To: decimon

I thought recharging was free, just like healthcare!

Anyhow, it sure be a lot easier to “borrow” a tank full of electric from the neighbor. Any one want to trade an extension cord for siphon hose?


6 posted on 01/13/2011 11:54:44 AM PST by WinMod70
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To: decimon

Gov Brown will be hoisted on his own tier.


7 posted on 01/13/2011 11:55:00 AM PST by JPG (YES SHE CAN!)
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To: decimon
Tyner said California could change its rate system or issue extra electricity meters for charging cars on flat rates.

Is this guy overly complicating the 'solution' on purpose? If they want to nullify this unintended discouragement, all they would have to do is grant legitimately registered hybrid owners a monthly rebate on their utility bill. One would think these masters of social engineering would think of this.

8 posted on 01/13/2011 11:59:32 AM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: decimon

This is nothing compared to the cost to many of the poor homes when they find their circuits for recharging blow. Cost of charging, totally will raise their electric bill by hundreds. Oh, I forgot. Just spends hundreds buying the new bulbs and save while hoping none of your bulbs burst in flame or just plain burst and destroy your rug. One of my daughters blew in flames that stunk and luck it was in their range cover giving nothing to burn just acidic smell.


9 posted on 01/13/2011 12:02:22 PM PST by Logical me
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To: Logical me

Not to mention waiting 20 minutes for the bulb to warm up and actually provide enough light to see.


10 posted on 01/13/2011 12:08:38 PM PST by Antonello (Oh my God, don't shoot the banana!)
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To: decimon

Chickens coming home to roost? Is reality going to slap some people in the face? Electricity doesn’t come from unicorn farts and pixie dust?
Just imagine the new substations and powerplants that would have to be built if all cars were electric. It’s mind-boggling.


11 posted on 01/13/2011 12:12:09 PM PST by vpintheak (Democrats: Robbing humans of their dignity 1 law at a time)
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To: decimon

More unintended Consequences of liberalism.
WHODATHUNKIT!!


12 posted on 01/13/2011 12:14:18 PM PST by tcrlaf (Democrats Outforced America's Jobs for 40 Years. Now The Bill Is Due)
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To: decimon

Plug-in hybrids, or as I like t call them, “Coal Cars”.


13 posted on 01/13/2011 12:29:49 PM PST by Hugin ("A man'll usually tell you hids bad intentions if you listen and let yourself hear it"--- Open Range)
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To: Hugin

It costs about $3000 on the east coast to replace a battery pack and $4000 or more on the west coast.


14 posted on 01/13/2011 12:32:42 PM PST by bt579 ("I will stand with the Muslims should the political winds shift in an ugly direction." ~Barack 0bama)
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To: Hugin

LOL!


15 posted on 01/13/2011 12:42:20 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: vpintheak

Wait until the fights begin over electric plug-in spaces. When you go for your 4 hour walk while your car charges, and come back to find someone else plugged in to “your” space, you’re going to be mighty pissed.


16 posted on 01/13/2011 12:48:45 PM PST by boop ("Let's just say they'll be satisfied with LESS"... Ming the Merciless)
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To: vpintheak

“Electricity doesn’t come from unicorn farts and pixie dust?”

ABSOLTELY NOT, nincompoop!!! They’re leading edge sophisticated in California. First, they send out the Green Guards and round up all the utility company CEOs. Then they strip themselves naked, start a huge bonfire in front of a sacred tree and sacrifice the CEOs to
Gaia by roasting them over that fire. Gaia being thus satisfied, they plug their extension cords into the tree and get all the electricity they want.


17 posted on 01/13/2011 12:50:20 PM PST by libstripper (uite eff)
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To: decimon

IMHO the killer of electric cars is the limited battery life. I recently read a test report on the Nissan Leaf in a major auto magazine. The test driver wrote about having to constantly watch the “fuel” gauge and decide whether he could use the air conditioner or even the radio and have enough juice to get to his destination. I doubt many consumers would fork over $40,000 for a car where using the air conditioner, heater, defroster, wipers or sound system my prevent them from reaching their destination or to wait hours to “fuel up” regardless of how cheap the fuel.


18 posted on 01/13/2011 12:54:30 PM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: decimon

What you get when you put liberals in charge.....STOOOOPID!


19 posted on 01/13/2011 12:58:29 PM PST by AngelesCrestHighway
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To: decimon

Once the envy of the world, today California is determined to hit bottom first.


20 posted on 01/13/2011 1:04:09 PM PST by italybub
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