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The Greatest [Who were the top ten composers of all time?]
NY Times Blog ^ | January 7, 2011 | ANTHONY TOMMASINI

Posted on 01/09/2011 7:12:24 AM PST by Pharmboy

YOU know that a new year has truly arrived when critics stop issuing all those lists of the best films, books, plays, recordings and whatever of the year gone by. These lists seem to be popular with readers, and they stir up lively reactions.

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Yet in other fields, critics and insiders think bigger. Film institutes periodically issue lists of the greatest films of all time. (“Citizen Kane” seems to have a lock on the top spot.) Rock magazines routinely tally the greatest albums ever. And think of professional tennis, with its system of rankings, telling you exactly which player is No. 1 in the world, or 3, or 59.

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Imagine if we could do the same in classical music, if there were ways to rank pianists, sopranos and, especially, composers. The Top 10 composers of all time. Now that’s the list I have secretly wanted to compile. It would be absurd, of course, but fascinating. My thinking about this was shaken, though, last spring, when Mohammed e-mailed me. That’s Mohammed Rahman, then a freshman at Stuyvesant High School in Manhattan. He was writing a paper on why people have different musical tastes, and he wanted to interview me. His questions were so thoughtful that I met him at a cafe.

Mohammed picked my brain about how my tastes had been formed, about what I looked for in good music. Inevitably we came to the question of how it gets decided that certain music, certain composers are the best. And of course some really are. I’m open-minded but not a radical relativist.

So if you were to try to compile a list of the 10 greatest composers in history, how would you go about it? For me

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: bach; beethoven; chopin; mozart; zappa
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To: Pharmboy

Try the Preludium to the E Major Partita for Solo Violin. I meditate to that one.


101 posted on 01/09/2011 1:24:29 PM PST by Publius (No taxation without respiration.)
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To: Publius
Take a listen to Beethoven’s Quartet in C# minor, Op. 131, to hear a man take the traditional format of the string quartet and stretch it to the breaking point.

This is truly an amazing composition, even without considering that Beethoven was deaf when he composed it.

ML/NJ

102 posted on 01/09/2011 1:36:05 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: Pharmboy

Beethoven’s Ninth Symphony is the Free Bird of the classical world.


103 posted on 01/09/2011 1:42:07 PM PST by InvisibleChurch (Being awake is dangerous and silly.)
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To: humblegunner

That’s one way to put it.

[what?]

;]


104 posted on 01/09/2011 1:44:17 PM PST by Salamander (Cursed with Second Sight)
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To: Gapplega
If we have to weigh in with a favorite 10....

1. Beethoven

2. Mozart

3. Bach

4. Haydn

5.Schubert

6. Wagner

7. Liszt

8.Handel

9, Mussorgsky

10. Michael Praetorius

105 posted on 01/09/2011 1:52:08 PM PST by catfish1957 (Hey algore...You'll have to pry the steering wheel of my 317 HP V8 truck from my cold dead hands)
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To: Publius

Aha! I THOUGHT you might be familiar with Bach for solo violin...outstanding stuff! (And “they” say Bach was not melodic).


106 posted on 01/09/2011 2:07:07 PM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy

I also meditate to the Prelude of the G Major Suite for Unaccompanied Cello. It puts me into a nice trance.


107 posted on 01/09/2011 2:11:08 PM PST by Publius (No taxation without respiration.)
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To: Pharmboy

My list: In no particular order except that top three or four IMO are the greatest. Beethoven, Bach, Mozart, Handel, Mendelssohn, Haydn, Chopin, Schubert, Brahms,Tchaikovsky.


108 posted on 01/09/2011 2:25:41 PM PST by luvbach1 (Stop Barry now. He can't help himself.)
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To: Publius

Thanks...I am unfamiliar with that one but will get it.


109 posted on 01/09/2011 2:26:44 PM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Pharmboy
Get Yo-Yo Ma's recording of the 6 Bach suites. They were a huge hit around 20 years ago.

A few years back, the Seattle Chamber Music Society's Winter Festival featured Biong Tsang playing all 6 of them in one concert. It was a night to remember.

110 posted on 01/09/2011 3:34:27 PM PST by Publius (No taxation without respiration.)
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To: Pharmboy

Bach
Mozart
Schubert
Beethoven
Schumann
Verdi
R. Strauss
Monteverdi
Handel
Poulenc
#11 Barber or Copland
#12 Purcell


111 posted on 01/09/2011 3:45:27 PM PST by keepitreal ( Good manners never go out of style)
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To: Natural Law

Yeah ok for Willie at 10.

Off to Zepplin etc just for fun tonight or maybe Chopin


112 posted on 01/09/2011 3:56:19 PM PST by nomorelurker
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To: Pharmboy

1. Beethoven
2. Bach
3. Mozart
4. Chopin
5. Verdi
6. Puccini
7. Berlioz
8. Grieg
9. Schubert
10. Borodin
(and that’s just pre 20th century! :-)


113 posted on 01/09/2011 4:27:41 PM PST by left that other site
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To: Publius

That’s a wonderful List too! I love Mahler, Chopin and Rachmaninoff. At the tender age of 45 I can finally play the Prelude in C sharp minor by memory. Started lessons 8 years ago.


114 posted on 01/09/2011 4:27:45 PM PST by Gapplega
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To: SamAdams76
Couldn't agree more. That is a case made for a slower world and dedication to one's passion. Same thing can be said for the moon landing. I have heard said many times that we do not have the technology to go back today. When you look back and realize that the boys in that control room were largely recent college grads and then look at their counterparts today, it makes you more cognizant of how big the difference really is. When you look at all we enjoy today...how much was birthed during slower times by the true experts? Makes you wonder what life will resemble in another generation or two (given how fast we have fallen in the past 40 years). We are stimulating ourselves into Idiocy!
115 posted on 01/09/2011 4:33:06 PM PST by my small voice
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To: Pharmboy

Technically?

Wagner, Bach, Mozart, Beethoven, Tchaikovsky ( I just love his piano concertos)


116 posted on 01/09/2011 5:09:08 PM PST by Chickensoup (Protecting US interests ONLY if US interests move back into the States and give US citizens jobs.)
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To: SamAdams76
Ehhhh...nope...don't buy it...not for a minute. But, allow me to quickly add that I have no answer as to why we do not have any Bachs or Ludwig vans today (or at least ones we know about now).

Because they did not have air travel, autos, electricity or the Internet in the 18th century allowed Beethoven's or Bach's genius to develop?

They had their own social networks back then which kept them busy...they had to do much more for themselves in order to have food and clothes. Many of the middle class learned to play instruments and anxiously awaited the latest sheet music of contemporary composers so that they could get together and play them.

Bach worked for the church essentially his whole life, loved his wife and his many children and still put out a cantata per week. Mozart's music came to him essentially "finished" in his head and he needed to find the time to transcribe it; Beethoven worked and re-worked pieces for DECADES.

Musical geniuses are born and the times they are born into mold the music they make; if Bach were born in 1785 rather than 1685 his compositions would have been very different; and perhaps he would not have even been remembered today.

117 posted on 01/09/2011 5:10:54 PM PST by Pharmboy (What always made the state a hell has been that man tried to make it heaven-Hoelderlin)
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To: Publius

In ancient times, I heard a couple of these suites played on the horn. Beautiful beyond description.


118 posted on 01/09/2011 5:16:55 PM PST by oldsicilian
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To: the invisib1e hand

“But for me the proof was the post-heyday work. Plant’s compositional genius really shone since Led Zeplin. His best work, IMHO, and as good as any pop composer’s, better than most.”

Yes, I agree about Plant’s abilities. The qualities you mentioned kept him on top throughout the ‘90’s. When it comes down to it, each member of that band was a prodigy in his own right. Kids today are still trying to model themselves after Page and Bonham on the guitar and drums. Page’s movie scores post Zep were also unbelievably good. None of that trademark “sloppiness” you would hear in the band’s tunes. Truth is, those guys collectively were what made that band and I have always gotten the feeling it never would have gone the way it did without any one of them.
This should probably be a thread of it’s own. LOL!


119 posted on 01/09/2011 5:19:46 PM PST by Ozarkie
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To: Pharmboy; Publius
Oh, boy, only ten? We'll have to stretch "classical" a little, but everyone else seems to have done so. Let's see...

Gabrieli
Handel
Bach
Hayden
Mozart
Beethoven

From here, only favorites:

Brahms
Tchaikovsky
Dvorak
Strauss - Richard, not the other guy

Lots of others I like - Smetana, Telemann, and yeah, Publius, Wagner - but that'll do for a first cut.

120 posted on 01/09/2011 5:42:23 PM PST by Billthedrill
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