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Organ Wagons To Make House Calls
myfoxny ^

Posted on 12/04/2010 9:44:18 AM PST by traumer

It might sound a little disturbing to some people but a new pilot program will attempt to recover kidneys from people who die at home in Manhattan.

A team of organ specialists will have about 20-minutes after a cardiac-arrest patient is declared dead to arrive at the home, check a donor registry, determine medical eligibility, obtain a family member's consent and get the person into a specialized ambulance.

A special team will monitor 9-1-1 calls about people in danger of dying and they will travel directly to a person's home without being summoned.

The program is being launched Wednesday. It could eventually lead to thousands more organs donated each year. But the five-month trial, a collaboration between Bellevue Hospital and New York City's police and fire departments, could be declared a success without a single organ being recovered, organizers say.

It's being called the Organ Donation Unit. It is being funded by a $1.5 million grant from the U. S. Department of Health Resources and Services Administration (HRSA),

The team — composed of two EMTs, an organ donor family services specialist and a Bellevue emergency physician — will interact with grieving and shocked family members in the limited time available before it is too late to use a person's organs. A police detective will arrive at the scene before the team to make sure there's nothing about the death that warrants a criminal investigation.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Health/Medicine
KEYWORDS: moralabsolutes; obamacare; organdonation; prolife; reidcare; romneycare; romneydeathpanels
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To: GeronL
One more:


41 posted on 12/04/2010 10:10:56 AM PST by 444Flyer ("The contest for ages has been to rescue liberty from the grasp of executive power." -Daniel Webster)
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To: traumer
The team — composed of two EMTs, an organ donor family services specialist and a Bellevue emergency physician — will interact with grieving and shocked family members in the limited time available before it is too late to use a person's organs.

For their sakes they should wear mouth guards. They will show up at a private residence -- without being summoned -- and then start pressuring people who just saw a loved one die to sign a form and let them cut into said loved one to remove some organs.

This is what decades of liberalism gets us. A decided lack of humanity.
42 posted on 12/04/2010 10:11:54 AM PST by LostInBayport (When there are more people riding in the cart than there are pulling it, the cart stops moving...)
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To: 444Flyer
"“BRING OUT YOURRRRRR DEAD!”"

Sorry, but that is so old fashioned. The new and improved version is:

"Coming for your dead"

43 posted on 12/04/2010 10:15:41 AM PST by 1_Rain_Drop
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To: traumer

Ah yes, I can see the t.v. “public service “ messages now...

“Doing CPR is stealing an organ from someone who needs it”

“No organs to donate? We accept watches, jewelry and gold teeth”

“Save a life! Die!”


44 posted on 12/04/2010 10:15:54 AM PST by count-your-change (You don't have be brilliant, not being stupid is enough.)
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To: 444Flyer

We are all in the organ farm now


45 posted on 12/04/2010 10:17:08 AM PST by GeronL
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To: traumer

Sort of like the Welcome Wagon, but they want stuff so you meet them at the door with a shotgun.


46 posted on 12/04/2010 10:18:17 AM PST by tumblindice (Is the heart a muscle or an organ? I'm going with muscle.)
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To: mrsmith
Close, but more of MP's The Meaning of Life:
Knock-knock

"Yes?"

"We're here for your liver."

"But I'm still using it."

"This is your signature on the organ donor card?"

"Yes, but...arrrgh" as his liver is cut out.


47 posted on 12/04/2010 10:18:33 AM PST by Calvin Locke
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To: traumer

This must be a joke. If it is not a joke then one more step has been taken towards considering people things, objects, non-humans.


48 posted on 12/04/2010 10:18:33 AM PST by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: traumer

Is this the one about waking up in a bathtub full of ice?


49 posted on 12/04/2010 10:19:53 AM PST by SERKIT (TSA-Form 2 Lines: Irradiation or Humiliation)
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To: 444Flyer

thanks for printing up the script. LOL. “you big baby.” So much more truth to this thing than I’d like to think about.


50 posted on 12/04/2010 10:21:19 AM PST by Paved Paradise
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To: traumer

Can’t quite decide if Monty Python’s gone rogue to the dark side, or if those “indigenous” Day Of The Dead harvest festivals were all rather prescient.

Does no one see a conflict of interest, here, seriously? A lot of people are going to refuse listing themselves as organ donors, what with these Frankenwagens rolling around butchering a sudden surfeit of clinically dead.

It’s a very real fear, that medical treatment will be (whoops!) insufficient to “save” the person, but quite sufficient to “save” organs.

The profits must be tremendous to engage in such ghoulishness.


51 posted on 12/04/2010 10:23:25 AM PST by RegulatorCountry
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To: Venturer

In NJ paramedics can pronouce

Had one case of 450 lb heart attack victim dies on 3rd
floor - paramedics know guy is DOA. They call our FD
for lift, had to put this whale in Stokes and carry down 3 floors to ambulance - where paramedic finally prounce him

Avoid having to wait for coroner and carry victim downstairs


52 posted on 12/04/2010 10:27:05 AM PST by njslim
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To: traumer

This is the creepiest thing I have read in a while. Who determines if this death was “natural”? No autopsy has been performed as of yet. Where is the medical examiner to certify that a person is truly deceased. (that is what is required where I live). Does the family clean up the tissue and blood? This is just way too out there for my tastes. Just a thought.


53 posted on 12/04/2010 10:30:17 AM PST by momtothree
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To: LostInBayport

That’s the real reason the cop is there. If you raise your voice, cuss them, walk away or try to order them off your property you’ll either be threatened with a felony or a trip to a psych ward.If you don’t do any of those things they’ll harass you till you do.But oh they’ll reconsider and let you out of those cuffs if you’ll just be reasonable and sign a consent form!


54 posted on 12/04/2010 10:32:17 AM PST by sanjoaquinvalley (Longtime Lady Lurker)
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To: RegulatorCountry

You can tell the doctors,because they’re not covered in doo-doo!


55 posted on 12/04/2010 10:33:41 AM PST by Dr. Ursus
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To: momtothree

Good point. What if it was a murder? Or doesn’t that matter to these ghouls?


56 posted on 12/04/2010 10:35:33 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: traumer
You guys have the Monty Python reference all wrong.

It's this one.

57 posted on 12/04/2010 10:42:47 AM PST by Disambiguator
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To: trisham

“What if it was murder..”

I am just thinking that if a person suddenly dies (which would be the case since organ donation is a no no with terminal cancer patients) then HOW did they die? Is it a heart attack plain and simple or one caused by a poison? If a person overdoses on medication, are the kidneys viable to anyone else anyway? Also, will there be pressure eventually placed on the EMS personnel to not “work” a person or call death prior to what is reasonable in order to get good numbers of organs? This is like some sort of horror movie.


58 posted on 12/04/2010 10:43:12 AM PST by momtothree
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To: traumer

I am a designated organ donor and a former ambulance medic so I see this idea from two positions. While I am in favor of increasing organ donation, I find it a little ghoulish to immediately approach a family who has just lost their loved one for an organ donation hardly before the body is cold. I have been at many in home deaths in more than 20 years as a medic and can tell you the family is generally numb especially if the death was unexpected. I can’t imagine going to a family who has just lost their Dad or Mom from an unexpected massive heart attack and asking them to cart off the body for quick organ donation especially after they have just minutes before witnessed medics feverishly working to save their life. They haven’t had time to even grasp their loved one’s death let alone make such a decision.


59 posted on 12/04/2010 10:43:35 AM PST by The Great RJ (The Bill of Rights: Another bill members of Congress haven't read.)
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To: momtothree

I could not agree more. It’s truly frightening.


60 posted on 12/04/2010 10:44:49 AM PST by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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