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1 posted on 11/11/2010 1:47:04 PM PST by sten
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Corporations do not pay taxes, their customers do. The corporations just do the collection.
2 posted on 11/11/2010 1:49:07 PM PST by Natural Law (lex orandi, lex credendi, lex vivendi)
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I think it’s stupid too. The whole point of it seems to be to drive corporations and their jobs overseas.


3 posted on 11/11/2010 1:51:45 PM PST by Liberty1970 ("Religion is a substitute for the relationship God wants with you." - RoadTest)
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So they can add stealth taxes through higher prices on people who don’t think they’re taxed too much.


4 posted on 11/11/2010 1:54:14 PM PST by kevkrom (De-fund Obamacare in 2011, repeal in 2013!)
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To: sten
The opposite question is interesting, too.
Why should there be such a thing as “corporations?”.
Why should not every single ‘owner’ and/or ‘officer’ be legally liable for anything done in their name and/or for their benefit? Do ‘corporations’ have any inherent right to have any legal status as separate entities?

Now, of course, I know that it has been proved for hundreds of years that this form of organization makes the best use of capital, by allowing many people to pool capital and therefore accomplish much greater things than any one could as an individual. And that the structure that protects investors from direct risk yields the most wealth for the most people. And that the government doesn't really have any inherent right to tell people how they may or may not associate. Bit it is an interesting question and I do have some difficulty when officers of a corporation can be shielded from consequences of actions that they would be directly liable for if they were individuals.
Personally, I distrust corporations exactly as much as I distrust governmental entities: any time you have power disconnected from responsibility you have abuse; people in large groups are dangerous to individual liberties, be they corporations, unions or governments; the question is only do we derive more benefit than we suffer detriment.

5 posted on 11/11/2010 1:59:30 PM PST by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, Deport all illegals, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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The logic is that the corporation is a separate legal entity from the owners. Under current law if they don’t pay dividends and there is no corporate tax, the corporate income will never be taxed.

Economically the simplest and probably best course would be to treat all corporations as subchapter-S for tax puposes, and pass through all corporate earnings for shareholders to pay income tax on at individual rates, and make all corporate dividends tax free. The government might gain a large amount of tax revenue, because they wouldn’t have to wait until you sell a stock or get a dividend to tax you on the profits of the corpations you own part of.


6 posted on 11/11/2010 2:00:06 PM PST by devere
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Because the voting public is STUPID.


7 posted on 11/11/2010 2:00:58 PM PST by achilles2000 ("I'll agree to save the whales as long as we can deport the liberals")
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Because it's easy to demonize corporations as "the rich," and it's a stealth VAT.
9 posted on 11/11/2010 2:02:06 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum ("Government has no other end, but the preservation of property." --John Locke)
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Better idea would be to only tax the corps. Let the individuals off the hook.


10 posted on 11/11/2010 2:03:51 PM PST by Colvin (Proud Owner '66 Binder PU, '66 Binder Travelall,)
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The same reason that employers are required to pay withhold employees’ income taxes and pay half of employees’ social security and medicare taxes and gasoline taxes are included in the price of gasoline, it is easier to hide the amount of taxes that you pay if you don’t realize you are paying it.

Corporations don’t pay taxes. Only people pay taxes, either the shareholders or the customers through higher prices.


12 posted on 11/11/2010 2:12:15 PM PST by kennedy (I am a Kennedy. Where do I go to claim my Senate seat?)
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That way the gov’t and unions can blame price increases on evil corporations.


13 posted on 11/11/2010 2:13:29 PM PST by CSM (Keeper of the "Dave Ramsey Fan" ping list. FReepmail me if you want your beeber stuned.)
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This is because Rats and all socialists have a “Scrooge McDuck View of Economics”. They are convinced that evil CEOs (actually anyone with some money!) have it stacked up in their secret basement vault, where every so often “the capitalist” goes down and rolls around in the money screaming “It's all mine!”

When you get right down to it, that’ as intellectually sophisticated as Rats get on economics, a kid's 1960s comic book!

It's the same on other subjects !

14 posted on 11/11/2010 2:21:01 PM PST by Reily
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The consumers (us) pay all Corporate taxes. Corp. taxes are put into the price of the goods and profit is projected from that. Let’s say we raise taxes on GM 30%. Watch car pricing go up 35%.


15 posted on 11/11/2010 2:37:35 PM PST by IC Ken
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Money is power. The government can’t stand the idea of any entity being able to do as they wish and not controlled by the government.


17 posted on 11/11/2010 2:57:54 PM PST by RJL
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Then pushes some chunk to distribution (the shareholders)... All of which gets taxed normally... Leaving $2m in the corporate bank account. At that point, the govt wants 40-50% or more. I don't understand why.

The "distribution to shareholders" (i.e. dividends) is after income taxes on corporate earnings. The dividends, which represent income that has already been taxed, are then taxed again as personal income to the shareholders.

18 posted on 11/11/2010 3:02:40 PM PST by VRWCmember (Jesus called us to be Salt and Light, not Vinegar and Water.)
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Why did Willy Sutton rob banks? That’s where the money was.

Like Sutton, no higher rationale is required when it comes to governments selecting its victims.


19 posted on 11/11/2010 3:06:08 PM PST by Skepolitic
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Now that corporations, which are not citizens since they aren’t even humans, have the right to free political speech, I say let them be taxed. I’d prefer that only the profits that are collected by the shareholders be taxed and that corporations be barred from all political involvement.


21 posted on 11/11/2010 3:19:05 PM PST by freedomfiter2
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So the voters don't know they're paying taxes!

Make the corps collect the taxes from people and take the heat.

27 posted on 11/11/2010 5:45:03 PM PST by mrsmith
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Corporations are mostly a way for people to hold onto their earned wealth against lawsuits (not counting labor disputes).
Most zero out unless they are some kind of giant with some kind of dispensation from the government.
Three is usually no corporate taxes paid if they do it right.

Or they leave the USA, become global and just do business in the USA taking advantage of NAFTA.

Over taxation just makes wealthier people leave and mostly the middle class and people with welfare government employment or entitlements stick around.


29 posted on 11/11/2010 9:25:36 PM PST by A CA Guy ( God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
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Every tax on a corporagtion is paid for by the consumer after overhed and profit is tacked on!


31 posted on 11/12/2010 5:38:01 AM PST by dalereed
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The problem is the double-taxation that is occurring. The corporations are taxed on their profits and then the shareholders are taxed on the dividends which have already been subject to taxes.


35 posted on 11/12/2010 8:49:38 AM PST by Redleg Duke (We didn't limit out, but we nailed a bunch of RATS!)
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