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Exploding the “That Wasn’t A Missile” Myth
FreeRepublic ^ | November 10, 2010 | Gargantua

Posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:55 PM PST by Gargantua

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To: Gargantua
Problem is, this time we can examine the video. The lying imbeciles.

The problem is that there was a similar contrail in the same spot in the sky yesterday evening, yet no mention of it anywhere on the news.

IOW, it was a jet, not a missile.

81 posted on 11/10/2010 1:25:08 PM PST by Ol' Dan Tucker (People should not be afraid of the government. Governement should be afraid of the people)
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To: ltc8k6
but where are all the witnesses?

At least so far this isn't like an aircraft accident where any sort of automatic investigation is triggered. So witnesses will have to come forward individually. Those that do will be told they are crazy and given forced mental examinations. Do you want to go first?

ML/NJ

82 posted on 11/10/2010 1:25:16 PM PST by ml/nj
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To: linear
>>If you read on to the tenth and eleventh paragraph they reveal that their radar showed no objects of a type that would be a missile. There were, however, several aircraft in the area at the time.<<

They're lying! It's a conspiracy, man!


83 posted on 11/10/2010 1:25:48 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: cripplecreek

The problem is that they (gov’t) did not launch the missile. They do not want the sheeple to be scared so they just lie about it. Pilots who report unusual things that the gov’t doesn’t want discussed suddelnly find their health and sanity called into question and their flight staus revoked by the FAA (gov’t).


84 posted on 11/10/2010 1:25:59 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Gargantua

My 3rd cousin’s college roommate’s moose-bitten sister wrote on her Facebook that her Uncle Freddy tweeted he saw it and it’s for real a plane - it was right after someone moved his cheese while he was in the shower and his beeber was in the shop from too much stunning. And he was logged in too.


85 posted on 11/10/2010 1:26:36 PM PST by Keith in Iowa (FR Class of 1998 | TV News is an oxymoron. | MSNBC = Moonbats Spouting Nothing But Crap.)
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To: RobRoy
...the contrail has only one central plume. That means a single engine jet of immense thrust to produce this type of even residual trail. Trails like this take time to bloom out, and as one can easily see the sun is highlighting the focal object moving at angle which no jet flies at.

There are no lights on this object in the twilight which would show up. ...the contrail is under the one, meaning it is lower and can not have formed a contrail and the other is above the sirus cloud formation meaning this plume is gaining altitude, which jets do not do as sirus are high cloud formations.

This is a missile with one very large rocket propelling it as it arcs in sways guided by it's gyroscope on course. This is not Space Shuttle quality or American quality guidance. This is a foreign missile.

What is the problem America is the US warning systems did not detect the mother craft whether it was a submarine or dump craft (something offloaded from a cargo ship and used as a platform to launch the missile later). In the old days, Americans used to pick up crawl tracks off California which were made by Soviets launching underwater tanks doing all sorts of war provoking things America tried to ignore so not to start a nuclear war.

NORAD did not detect this system, and NORAD did not detect the launch, nor have an ability to track it.

86 posted on 11/10/2010 1:27:09 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: RobRoy

Well the Pentagon doesn’t what it was, I’m glad you do. Thanks, I feel better already.


87 posted on 11/10/2010 1:27:16 PM PST by Doulos1 (Bitter Clinger Forever)
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To: Gargantua

The author only discussed two things wrong with the report and neglected the third and most obvious;

#3. It is a lie!!!


88 posted on 11/10/2010 1:27:41 PM PST by dirtymac (Now is the time for all good men to come to the aid of their country. Calling all Son's of Liberty)
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To: Gargantua

Yesterday I was convinced it was a missile launch.

Then somewhere today I read that the CBS helicopter camera man filmed this for 10 minutes.

A jet would certainly remain in view for ten minutes, but would a missile launch? I don’t know the answer to that, but I doubt it.


89 posted on 11/10/2010 1:28:54 PM PST by Brian Kopp DPM (Liberalism is infecund.)
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To: dirtymac
The problem is that they (gov’t) did not launch the missile. They do not want the sheeple to be scared so they just lie about it.

If they don't want the sheeple to be scared, why not just say it was one of ours like they always do?
90 posted on 11/10/2010 1:29:26 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: Gargantua
Nice try, but your imagination has outstripped your powers of observation.

Ditto.

91 posted on 11/10/2010 1:29:29 PM PST by Yo-Yo (Is the /sarc tag really necessary?)
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To: stockpirate

>>Problem is we can see the exhaust from the engine or rocket motor. <<

I’ve seen that on multiple occasions. it’s the sun reflecting off the belly of the plane. I’ve seen it when there is NO contrail, but they are harder to spot, for obvious reasons.

If you knew my background here, you would not have made the tongue in cheek comments preceding that one, btw. Just because someone disagrees with you and can articulate their position, it does not make them part of a conspiracy.

Then again, who in Obama’s admin has proven they can effectively articulate their position? ;)


92 posted on 11/10/2010 1:30:09 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Keith in Iowa
"...while he was in the shower and his beeber was in the shop from too much stunning."

Easy for you to say, you heartless SOB! But what of the woodland toad? Hmmmm?!

8^D

93 posted on 11/10/2010 1:32:22 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: ironman

Dang... I dun been found out! ;-)

LLS


94 posted on 11/10/2010 1:32:43 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: MrShoop
The sun has set from the POV of the camera, but not from the POV of the contrail which is both miles west toward the sun, but more importantly probably ~30,000 feet higher than the camera. So you see the sun light reflecting off the bottom of the contrail.

In that case then the furthest west point of the contrail would be the last part to fall into shadow.

As you can see there the "farthest west," or bottom, of the contrail is the first to fall into shadow. It also passes in front of a line of clouds in the distance. If it were an airplane at 30k ft coming from the horizon it would pass over that relatively near and low line of clouds.

95 posted on 11/10/2010 1:34:10 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: RobRoy

Thank you for your loyalty to the cause. I’ll make sure you are properly rewarded when the Trilateral Commission authorizes me to distribute my warehouse full of orange money. ;)

Got to go now, flying my black helicopter off to meet with Henry Kissinger and the Queen of England about that latest shipment of cocaine from the CIA.


96 posted on 11/10/2010 1:34:25 PM PST by linear
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To: RobRoy
"Just because someone disagrees with you and can articulate their position, it does not make them part of a conspiracy."

Methinks thou dost protest too much...

If you're actually not part of the G-Man Cover-up Cabal, why are you getting all screechy over this? That's just what a Company mole would say!

8-|

97 posted on 11/10/2010 1:35:25 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Hodar

Regarding the whole China aspect of this:

China could put a shot across our bow by not buying bonds for one auction. Or by selling gold in a large amount quietly in the Swiss Market.

I know this may come as a surprise to a lot of people (not directing this to YOU specifically) but China is not going to take over the world with arms, but with our dollars.

There strategic moves will come in the boardroom, not the war room.


98 posted on 11/10/2010 1:36:21 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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To: Gargantua

My ex-husband said that it was ME on my broom.


99 posted on 11/10/2010 1:37:10 PM PST by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: RobRoy

I need some evidence that the editor of Jane’s was duped as you suggest.


100 posted on 11/10/2010 1:37:14 PM PST by DManA
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