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Exploding the “That Wasn’t A Missile” Myth
FreeRepublic ^ | November 10, 2010 | Gargantua

Posted on 11/10/2010 12:45:55 PM PST by Gargantua

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To: Doulos1

If you read on to the tenth and eleventh paragraph they reveal that their radar showed no objects of a type that would be a missile. There were, however, several aircraft in the area at the time.


61 posted on 11/10/2010 1:14:47 PM PST by linear
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To: Gargantua
This, from a blog, was posted on the "big thread" in Breaking News:

The "missile":

Same angle, same time, next day:

The blogger seems to think it was US Airways Flight 808.

More here:

http://blog.bahneman.com/content/it-was-us-airways-flight-808

62 posted on 11/10/2010 1:14:51 PM PST by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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To: MrShoop

Since the sun has set it must be lit from behind not underneath. So, where does it go? If it were headed straight for the coast why doesn’t it continue on overhead? It is obviously a pic taken after the vehicle has passed and is breaking up.


63 posted on 11/10/2010 1:15:38 PM PST by TigersEye (Who crashed the markets on 9/28/08 and why?)
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To: Doulos1

>>Hey, FAA said there were no aircraft (that means airplanes) in that area.<<
Really?
http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX

U.S. Air flight 808 from Hawaii to Phoenix.

There was even a picture posted of the contrail of the same flight a day later.


64 posted on 11/10/2010 1:15:42 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Gargantua
As a hypothetical? What if that was a dummy missile launched as a chest-thumping demonstration by a Chinese nuclear sub off the coast of California?

That would be the most likely reason our side would claim responsibility.
65 posted on 11/10/2010 1:16:12 PM PST by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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To: CharlesWayneCT
Like the chicoms give a rats patootie... the rooskies shot down a commercial airliner with a US Congressman aboard and NOTHING happened. They also forced a Korean airliner to land in Murmansk after being fired upon by fighters... we may care... they do not.

LLS

66 posted on 11/10/2010 1:16:12 PM PST by LibLieSlayer (WOLVERINES!)
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To: ltc8k6; RobRoy

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2624967/posts?page=10#10

http://flightaware.com/live/flight/AWE808/history/20101108/1955Z/PHNL/KPHX


67 posted on 11/10/2010 1:17:33 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: Names Ash Housewares

This thing is embarrassing me for my country but hitting me harder regarding FR. I thought we were above this tin foil crap. Sure, we joke about it, but I didn’t realize there was so much of it genuinely in existence on this site.

I feel like a liberal that caught the NYT lying for the first time. I threw up a little in my mouth.


68 posted on 11/10/2010 1:17:44 PM PST by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Gargantua
This guy thinks it is US Airways flight 808.

He took the original pic from the news report of the incident, shown here

and compared it to an image taken from a webcam 24 hours later, when flight 808 was going by, shown here

The similarities would seem to suggest that the original incident was US Airways Flight 808.

69 posted on 11/10/2010 1:19:10 PM PST by Pete (29thday.org Exponential problems require exponential solutions)
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To: ltc8k6; RobRoy; All

See also:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2624900/posts?page=151#151


70 posted on 11/10/2010 1:19:24 PM PST by BenLurkin (This post is not a statement of fact. It is merely a personal opinion -- or humor -- or both)
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To: LibLieSlayer

I gotta admit that is pretty funny! Thanks.


71 posted on 11/10/2010 1:19:57 PM PST by ironman
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To: Names Ash Housewares

Not sure where I read it this morning but it was confirmed that particular flight entered the airspace of the video about an hour later.


72 posted on 11/10/2010 1:20:31 PM PST by winoneforthegipper ("If you can't ride two horses at once, you probably shouldn't be in the circus" - SP)
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To: RobRoy

I’m with you. Some people just really want to believe things...


73 posted on 11/10/2010 1:20:39 PM PST by linear
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To: TigersEye

The sun has set from the POV of the camera, but not from the POV of the contrail which is both miles west toward the sun, but more importantly probably ~30,000 feet higher than the camera. So you see the sun light reflecting off the bottom of the contrail.


74 posted on 11/10/2010 1:20:45 PM PST by Wayne07
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To: Wee-Weed Up
"The Pentagon and the Federal government are never gonna tell us what it was. So why do we continue to bitch about it?"

I'm pointing out the lighting discrepancy that gives lie to the explanation we're being fed. Apparently, there are more remarkably inobservant dullards here than I anticipated.

But if the discussion offends you, or somehow isn't to your liking, you can always get the fu@& out of here and quit bitching about all the bitching. You poor tortured simpwad.

8^D

75 posted on 11/10/2010 1:21:06 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Linda Frances
ground to missile set off by terrorist in this country

We'll assume you mean "ground to air".

Now tell me where the ground is 35 miles out to sea?

76 posted on 11/10/2010 1:22:22 PM PST by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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To: LibLieSlayer

77 posted on 11/10/2010 1:22:47 PM PST by The KG9 Kid
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To: Pete

Yes, now I think it is a 100% certainty that was a common contrail, probably from 808. The illusion was a strong one!


78 posted on 11/10/2010 1:22:51 PM PST by steve86
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To: The KG9 Kid
No, you!

8^D

79 posted on 11/10/2010 1:23:13 PM PST by Gargantua ("Palin ~ Bachmann 2012"... Just call it "Pa-Bach!")
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To: Gargantua

The launch of a friendly missile would not be such a big deal. We do tests all of the time.

The launch of a hostile missile would have resulted in some scrambling that would be hard to dismiss. Airmen, sailors, and ATC people would have been moving all over the place. It would have been talked about in public by now.

I find it hard to believe that there were no ships in the area, or boats, or pleasure boats that have not reported hearing and seeing the large missile rise over the horizon.

I find it hard to believe that there were not at least a couple of aircraft in the area. This certainly would have resulted in a “WTF” moment that would have been reported to be media by now.

The fact that most of the military were saying, “huh?” at the outset tells me that none of the bells and whistles that should have gone off, did not. Not one? Not a single one? That just does not seem reasonable.

The fact that the defense establishment is pretty much saying, “We don’t know what it is, but we know what it wasn’t” seems to make sense to me.

I would love the believe that this is a huge Obama conspiracy, but the lack of evidence and the lack of at least one other person commenting on what they saw just makes me think that it was a contrail.


80 posted on 11/10/2010 1:24:10 PM PST by Vermont Lt (We are so screwed.)
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