http://wattsupwiththat.com/2010/11/09/mystery-missle-launch-off-california/#more-27630
Best discussion I’ve seen, go all the way to the end. Knowledgeable people discussing rationally.
(Just pinging a few names from another couple of threads about this. Hope no one minds the ping.)
Roses, check out the link I just posted. Very interesting and knowledgeable discussion (it’s a great site) and read the comments down to the end.
It wasn’t a plane.
Oops - should have added you when I pinged the above link.
It WAS a rocket, likely solid fuel.
I have no doubt about it.
This contrail could not be produced by a fuel / air mixture engine. It is too dense, corkscrewed, with no gap between source and condensation.Jet aircraft cannot possibly mimick such a contrail , whatever atmospheric and light abherations are present. The contrail density , pattern and shear speak for itself.
And then we have this NOTAM:
A Notam was put out for that area for 20:00 yesterday.
NOTAM for LA. KZLA LOS ANGELES A2832/10 – THE FOLLOWING RESTRICTIONS ARE REQUIRED DUE TO NAVAL AIR WARFARE CENTER WEAPONS DIVISION ACTIVATION OF W537. IN THE INTEREST OF SAFETY, ALL NON-PARTICIPATING PILOTS ARE ADVISED TO AVOID W537. IFR TRAFFIC UNDER ATC JURISDICTION SHOULD ANTICIPATE CLEARANCE AROUND W537 AND CAE 1176. CAE 1155 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1316 & CAE 1318 WILL NOT BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. CAE 1177 WILL BE AVAILABLE FOR OCEANIC TRANSITION. W537 ACTIVE, CAE 1176 CLOSED. SURFACE – FL390, 09 NOV 20:00 2010 UNTIL 10 NOV 01:00 2010. CREATED: 08 NOV 20:52 2010
This was a US rocket, it may or may not have been ,military.
It is a interesting link. The best explanation I have read. I am going with contrail.
Given time, this illusion will happen again, so I think that is the most powerful evidence that time will produce the same dealyo again for all to see, and even predictable given proper weather conditions, lighting, etc.
Perhaps a launch can be seen coming from the east of Cali at sunrise as well. Those Chinese are sneaky!
Thanks for the link and the ping. Enjoyed the comments - here’s one of my favorites:
Bruce Cobb says:
November 9, 2010 at 5:33 pm
It changed course at one point, so definitely not a rocket. ….
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Rockets, whether liquid, solid, or hybrid easily can change course if equipped with thrust vector control systems – which most are.
Having spent my professional life in rocketry from war stuff to Space Shuttle, I’m in the Jeff Id/shunti camp. This was a rocket, probably solid and appeared to be launched from a submersible or sea platform. I’m not quite ready to go for the most exciting possibility, that of a foreign sub tweaking us. Someone in the defense establishment has the answer – count on it. As to when or if they will let the rest of us in on it, that’s a big question.
Bruce Cobb says: November 9, 2010 at 5:33 pm It changed course at one point, so definitely not a rocket. ….
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Rockets, whether liquid, solid, or hybrid easily can change course if equipped with thrust vector control systems – which most are.
Having spent my professional life in rocketry from war stuff to Space Shuttle, I’m in the Jeff Id/shunti camp. This was a rocket, probably solid and appeared to be launched from a submersible or sea platform. I’m not quite ready to go for the most exciting possibility, that of a foreign sub tweaking us. Someone in the defense establishment has the answer – count on it. As to when or if they will let the rest of us in on it, that’s a big question.
Thanks for the ping. I have been off the boards all day until now. I check out those videos earlier on. I’m just not qualified to make a judgement call on this one.