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Study: Doctors overprescribe antibiotics for respiratory infections
University of Chicago Press Journals ^ | September 22, 2010 | Unknown

Posted on 09/22/2010 5:26:39 PM PDT by decimon

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To: luckystarmom

All the sinus wash does is to clear out the infected mucus that is living in her sinuses(and spreading downward). It gets the bacterial infection over sooner instead of hanging on. She could wash first and then use the nasal spray. My E&T highly recommends it.


41 posted on 09/22/2010 7:00:10 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Secret Agent Man
the doctor can know almost for sure that a cough or a runny nose or an ear ache etc is viral....but try explaining that to a patient...patients want "something" done...

you think any dr. in his right mind would not order antibiotics IF they knew they would be sued repeatedly for any complication that came along....

people want drs to act doctorly, but they don't really want them to on the other hand...they want it both ways..

42 posted on 09/22/2010 7:00:38 PM PDT by cherry
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To: RegulatorCountry

I knew you were going to ask. LOL! She is itching and scratching a little right now even thought she had a bath today. She has been very VERY good until now.


43 posted on 09/22/2010 7:03:17 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: decimon

This is about patient who are HOSPITALIZED with respiratory infections.

The MDs prescribe antibiotics in these situaions to hellp prevent a bacterial infection from taking advantage of the virally-weakened individual.


44 posted on 09/22/2010 7:04:15 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: bigheadfred
1. Start eating better.

Yeah, I know, no time. But you can whip up a pitcher of smoothie in about three minutes. Orange juice, some packets of carnation instant breakfast (Vanilla), bananas, yogurt, honey, maybe some ground flax seed. Pour it in a bottle and you have breakfast for two or more days. Yummy, full of vitamins and easy to sip on.

2.) Get some sleep. The antihistamine did help you sleep so start taking one at night. Also drink a cup of hot water with some honey and lemon juice at night before bed. Sleep on two or more pillows to prop you up at night.

3.)Neti pot. The cough is likely caused by drainage. Cleaning out the sinuses can help.

There is also oil of oregano or olive leaf extract that can help an infection.

45 posted on 09/22/2010 7:04:27 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The Doctrine of Nachofication: The belief that everything tastes better with melted cheese.)
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To: bigheadfred

When is the last time you had it xrayed?


46 posted on 09/22/2010 7:07:16 PM PDT by Chickensoup (There is a group of people who suck off the productive. They make rules then find infractions.)
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To: Ditter

Well, bless her heart. Might be habit. She’s still looking better, from outward appearance?


47 posted on 09/22/2010 7:08:24 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

So much better! It’s like having a new dog. She seems to have lost some weight or it might just be fluid because of the steroids she had been on for so long.


48 posted on 09/22/2010 7:13:07 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: Harmless Teddy Bear

Oil of oregano is a great one, but caution is in order, it’s pretty powerful stuff and more isn’t necessarily better.


49 posted on 09/22/2010 7:13:14 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: decimon

What is not mentioned is that many of the viral infections are accompanied by bacterial infections that are cured by the antibiotics. So the viral sinus infection will “go away” in two weeks, but the hellish sore throat is cured by the antibiotic.

One wonders what the clowns are smoking.


50 posted on 09/22/2010 7:13:34 PM PDT by Citizen Tom Paine (An old sailor sends)
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To: decimon

Look at the source — University of CHICAGO. No more money for health care PING! Get strep throat and die PING!


51 posted on 09/22/2010 7:15:50 PM PDT by browniexyz
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To: Ditter

Steroids can do a lot of good, but they do tend to chunk you up, dogs too. Glad to hear she’s coming along nicely.


52 posted on 09/22/2010 7:16:28 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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To: RegulatorCountry

So much better! It’s like having a new dog. She seems to have lost some weight or it might just be fluid because of the steroids she had been on for so long.


53 posted on 09/22/2010 7:19:58 PM PDT by Ditter
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To: bigheadfred

Antibiotics don’t work on virii; I suggest long hot soaks up to the chin, with some bath salts (Epson salts which are magnesium sulfate, not sodium, and cheap; or Bicarb, which is also cheap, can be had in big bags at the warehouse clubs), and have something to sip close by. Another thing that seems to work for aches and pains and whatnot is crushing a bunch of cheap aspirin tablets and dissolving those in the tub as it fills.

And rest.

Need I say it — chicken soup? May not help, but it can’t hoit.

And I don’t even play a doctor on tv.


54 posted on 09/22/2010 7:54:54 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: SunkenCiv

All noted, thank you very much for the advice.


55 posted on 09/22/2010 7:57:01 PM PDT by seoul62
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To: bigheadfred

Oh, and I swear by those saline nose rinse things. Those clean up and sooth the tissues. If I’ve got a sinus infection (I go by feel, and am prone to them) I first give it a shot of (brace yourself) hydrogen peroxide. Walmart has pump bottles of that, very handy, and it doesn’t take much to bitch-slap the critters that are buggin’ ya nose. Then a minute or so later (whenever it feels ready), gently blow out everything, and when the head feels clearer, the saline rinse. The saline is okay as directed on the package (can’t do much harm), but I don’t recommend using the peroxide more than once every day or two, it’s hard on the tissues.


56 posted on 09/22/2010 7:59:13 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Democratic Underground... matters are worse, as their latest fund drive has come up short...)
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To: RegulatorCountry
True and I am not sure he should take a strong antibacterial yet.

I am not sure he has a infection as a root cause. Sounds more like allergies that irritate until an infection begins.

The honey should sooth as well as being a mild antibacterial, the smoothie and extra sleep should help build him up, the neti pot should help with the drainage that seems to be happening.

If that helps but does not end the problem then he should try one drop of oil of oregano in a cup of warm water.

On the other hand if his fever spikes to over four degrees above his normal then forget the self treatment, he should head for the doctor asap.

57 posted on 09/22/2010 8:57:31 PM PDT by Harmless Teddy Bear (The Doctrine of Nachofication: The belief that everything tastes better with melted cheese.)
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To: cherry

One real problem is they cannot prescribe them things that might help because they are not drugs.

Prescribe them Echinacea, Goldenseal, Ginseng, Eleuthero, Oil of Oregano,, garlic, zinc, a good B-complex vitamin, vitamin C, D, E, and other immune system boosters.

They aren’t drugs, unless they are naturopathic doctors they won’t even consider that. You can’t bill for this stuff, so it will never be prescribed. If they could, then people could feel like the doctor ‘did something’.


58 posted on 09/22/2010 8:59:46 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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To: decimon
With a viral infection, anti biotics are given so that you don't develop a bacterial infection because the immune system is compromised with the virus infection....IE: will usually be give if one has virus pneumonia, don't need to have a bacterial infection on top of that..
59 posted on 09/22/2010 9:53:55 PM PDT by goat granny
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To: SunkenCiv

It burns, but it works. I swear by it. Haven’t been sick in years since I went back to grandma’s remedy.

Hydrogen Peroxide in the ears for 5 minutes a side works wonders as well.


60 posted on 09/23/2010 3:15:50 AM PDT by 1010RD (First Do No Harm)
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