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Is Rove a weasel bastard or could he still be a magnificent bastard playing the game better than we think?
1 posted on 09/16/2010 9:46:40 AM PDT by mnehring
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2 posted on 09/16/2010 9:48:56 AM PDT by RummyChick
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Is Rove a weasel bastard or could he still be a magnificent bastard playing the game better than we think?

I would be impressed if you were right, but I don't think that Rove is that clever a strategist. Nor do I think he is that bad at reading people - the words he chose would hurt O'Donnell with any voter who took him seriously.

3 posted on 09/16/2010 9:49:48 AM PDT by Pollster1 (Natural born citizen of the USA, with the birth certificate to prove it)
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Well, if it is the latter, it completely flopped, lol.


4 posted on 09/16/2010 9:49:51 AM PDT by miss marmelstein
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No, Rove’s candidate for 12 could be running against Palin.

This is prob the beginning of a primary fight.


5 posted on 09/16/2010 9:49:51 AM PDT by roses of sharon (I can do all things through Him who strengthens me. Philippians 4:13)
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My first comment on this whole affair was long these lines -- although not nearly as thorough and well-written as your comment.

But I don't think so. I certainly think Rove is helping O'Donnell very much and making it likely that she will win. But I believe Rove is doing this by accident. I consider him a pure Republican establishment guy and I think he is the enemy.

7 posted on 09/16/2010 9:50:09 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Things will change after the revolution, but not before.)
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For the “magnificent bastard” tactic to be useful I’d think he’d have distanced himself with words not so useful to the ‘Rats

He was too personal and vicious and specific, and now his words will be used against O’Donnell during the next 7 weeks

I think you pose an intriguing possibility, but if that’s what he was up to he went way overboard


9 posted on 09/16/2010 9:52:17 AM PDT by Enchante ("The great enemy of clear language is insincerity." -- George Orwell --)
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Is Rove a weasel bastard or could he still be a magnificent bastard playing the game better than we think?

Rove is going to voluntarilly allow his reputation to be totally destroyed in the minds of most conservatives just to help out a politician he was actively trying to defeat not long before?

Sorry. I'm not buying that.

11 posted on 09/16/2010 9:52:50 AM PDT by Wissa (Gone Galt)
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The simplest explanation is usually the correct one.

Rove didn’t favor her, because he didn’t (doesn’t) think she can win.


13 posted on 09/16/2010 9:53:52 AM PDT by RangerM (A liberal is a man too broadminded to take his own side in a quarrel - Robert Frost.)
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That’s not the behavior of any political supporter or friend. That’s someone doing a dirty deed for a dirty professional purpose.


16 posted on 09/16/2010 9:55:52 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
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I'll let this serve as my answer ...
19 posted on 09/16/2010 10:00:20 AM PDT by Scythian
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The Democrats went off the deep end in the Bush years by deluding themselves into thinking that Rove was some sort of evil scheming genius, instead of a basic political operative. They seriously thought that Rove controlled the weather, for crying out loud.

I would humbly suggest we don't do the same. Rove said what he said because that's what he honestly believes.

What I don't think the Roves of the world are taking into account is the fact that Castle could have won and then pulled an Arlen Specter / Jim Jeffords and flat-out joined the Democrat party when the offers started pouring in.

Also, they're missing the larger point. If the Republicans don't want this sort of thing to happen again, they better start nominating people who would be more palatable to the tea partiers.
20 posted on 09/16/2010 10:00:52 AM PDT by Question Liberal Authority (Worst. Post-Racial President. EVER.)
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Don’t ever forget it was Rove who convinced Bush an amnesty program for illegals was good politics. He was wrong then and he is wrong now.

The man can best be understood as a master numbers geek. He views politics as little more than a chess game.

By his comments on Fox following the Primary on Tuesday convincingly displayed what many have always known about him, that he does not a clue about the dynamics of movement politics.


27 posted on 09/16/2010 10:09:33 AM PDT by kimoajax (Rack'em & Stack'em)
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You’re thinking too hard.

This is one of many coming battles of the Country Class vs. the Ruling Class. If you haven’t read Codevillas essay to understand what I mean.

http://spectator.org/archives/2010/07/16/americas-ruling-class-and-the/print

Rove makes his living off of the Ruling Class, his reaction is predictable once you stop thinking of Liberal vs. Conservative or R vs. D. Winning this war will take many such battles, won’t be easy and may take more than one election cycle.


28 posted on 09/16/2010 10:10:29 AM PDT by bigbob
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His contempt toward her seemed like a genuine reaction on Hannity. He also was strongly against AZ new law.

I wish he would put the air time toward exposing her opponents Marxist ideology instead.

31 posted on 09/16/2010 10:15:50 AM PDT by opentalk
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It's hard to imagine he's part of some grand strategy here.

It seems more likely there is something personal here we do not understand, or there is something in his psyche that is reacting in a crazy kind of way.

I wish we understood this, but he seems to have performed his own sexless version of Wilbur Mills in the fountain.

32 posted on 09/16/2010 10:18:17 AM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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Well, Rove said this morning on Fox that he had helped her out because he had tons of e-mails telling him they were contributing to her campaign because of him. He then offered suggestions that he felt would help her to combat some of the charges against her. In the end, I believe he will end up helping her intentionally after watching him this morning.


34 posted on 09/16/2010 10:32:41 AM PDT by bamagirl1944 (That's short for Alabama, not Obama)
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So Rove flushed all goodwill along with his reputation, straight down the toilet to help a candidate he was campaigning against.

And Rush was in on it, by trashing Rove to smithereens before an audience of millions, referring to Rove as “It’s Washington against us,” decrying the fact that Rove never spoke up against the REAL enemies, allowed Bush to be smeared while Rove advised silence, lambasted Rove for ripping into the candidate when the survival of the country is at stake, etc.

HAHAHAHAHA, best laugh I’ve had all day. For a minute there, I thought you were serious.

You are about the 5th Freeper I have seen touting this kook theory.

;-)


35 posted on 09/16/2010 10:48:53 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Pray for our leaders: Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.)
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Some want to hold on to the incredible myth of Rove the Genius.

It ain’t so, and it never was. The sooner everyone wakes up to that fact, the better off we’ll all be.


36 posted on 09/16/2010 10:49:58 AM PDT by Do Not Make Fun Of His Ears (Pray for our leaders: Rush Limbaugh and Mark Levin.)
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37 posted on 09/16/2010 11:54:42 AM PDT by gunsequalfreedom (Conservative is not a label of convenience.)
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Rove is a punk!


41 posted on 09/16/2010 12:49:40 PM PDT by fortheDeclaration (When the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn (Pr.29:2))
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