Why is that the big deal?
One for the big blue PING?
thanks, Lucy
How was she 20 years of age when Obama was born, when she herself was born in Nov. 1942? That would make her 18 at the time 0 was born.
“The released documents indicate Dunham’s husband, Lolo Soetoro, petitioned the Immigration and Naturalization Service of the State Department in 1967 to obtain a waiver to return to the United States to rejoin his wife and her infant son, Barack Obama Jr. “
“Infant son” in 1967?
lol - the apple doesn't fall far from the tree...
Shocking! I don't want to sound like a snob, but government clerks aren't the most thorough people, probably not the brightest either. They write down what they hear. There doesn't have to be a conspiracy involved if they get things wrong.
Father, Stanley Armour's usual address was listed as Wichita, even though the Kansas websites listed it as El Dorado. According to rumor, Stan and Maddy were never married.
According to a rumor? Why then it has to be true!
Seriously, though, would they have stuck together for forty or fifty years if they weren't married?
And if they did stick together for forty or fifty years weren't they pretty much married for all intents and purposes whatever the paperwork said? In the eyes of the government and society, if not of the church.
They certainly did not live together when Ann was born. However, her BC says "Yes," presumably to avoid all of the different laws pertaining to unmarried parents at the time.
Uh, there was a war on at the time. A lot of parents and married couples weren't living together then. In most cases the paperwork probably did say they were living together just to save the headaches.
Well, at least someone in his family has one.
Odd - The City of Birth should be Wichita, and County of Birth Wichita
Maya was born August 15, 1970 in Jakarta and Lolo petitioned to join his wife in 1967 in the United states? Stanley Ann was in the US then went back to Indonesia for the birth of Maya? If true did SAD do the same with Obama? Was it intentional to leave pregnant because she did not want a American born child, twice?
It's the other Obama/Soetero/Dunham BC I care about.
Well, for one thing, there is a village of Sedgwick, Kansas and there is a a Wichita county in extreme western Kansas,but the village of Sedgwick and the city of Wichita where St. Francis Hospital is located are both in Sedgwick county.
I think you’re guessing, and of what significance is any of this anyway?
Zero was 5 or 6 years old in 1967. That's not an "infant."
Sedgwick,Kansas is area of choice for birth of Stanley Ann. BUT there is only family trees of information for that. No birth certificate. Interesting huh?
Thank you. Have you done any searches using Madeline?
I hope anything I remembered incorrectly will be corrected!
Barack Obama = Stanley’s Tool.
I'd never read this before. Wouldn't surprise me at all. Is it common knowledge for everyone but me? Of course, I'm out of the loop on so much....Good thread, Fred Nerks!
No mention of sex?
As you say, Fred Nerks, Sedgwick is a town north of Wichita with last known population of 1,537. But it is in Harvey County, not Sedgwick County. Wichita is in Sedgwick County. (To compound matters, there is a Wichita County, but it is a couple of hundred miles west of the city of Wichita.)
The most probable cause for this confusion is that whoever filled out the birth certificate put the correct city (Wichita) in the box for the county of birth and the correct county (Sedgwick) in the box for the city of birth. Kind of strange that someone who probably did many of these BCs with the same info would get the city and county flip-flopped.
Also, one might expect "Kansas" or "State of Kansas" to appear in the pre-printed heading at the top of the certificate, but I don't see it there.
I believe that "Wichita, Kansas USA" is listed as Stanley Ann's place of birth on baby Barack's supposed Kenyan BC now in the possession of Inspector Smith.
Anyone know where BP2 is? Was he banned for good or just suspended?