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I Think I See What Glen Beck is Doing
Chicago Boyz ^ | 9/01/2010 | patrick1

Posted on 09/01/2010 10:27:34 AM PDT by Patrick1

This is well worth reading.

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Beck is attacking the enemy at the foundations of their power, their claim to race as a permanent trump card, their claim to the Civil Rights movement as a permanent model to constantly be transforming a perpetually unjust society.
1 posted on 09/01/2010 10:27:35 AM PDT by Patrick1
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Obama is laying the groundwork for a country that will have some underpinnings in Sharia. It will incrementally be changed more so.


2 posted on 09/01/2010 10:32:25 AM PDT by Secret Agent Man (I'd like to tell you, but then I'd have to kill you.)
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Sharia and the constitution are like oil and water. They cannot coexist. I have no problem with Sharia law being imposed on Muslims as long as it doesn’t violate our existing laws based on the constitution. e.g. you can’t behead someone because they pissed you off.

But this is the problem. The goal of islam (read it in the Koran if you don’t believe me) is to make it the law of the land. As long as every attempt to do that is thwarted, I have no problem with them telling their membership which hand to wipe their a$$ with.


3 posted on 09/01/2010 10:36:25 AM PDT by RobRoy (The US Today: Revelation 18:4)
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To: Patrick1
"Beck is attacking the enemy at the foundations of their power, their claim to race as a permanent trump card, their claim to the Civil Rights movement as a permanent model to constantly be transforming a perpetually unjust society."

And their perversions of the above.

4 posted on 09/01/2010 10:37:43 AM PDT by Dead Eye Lane
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To: Secret Agent Man
Obama is laying the groundwork for a country that will have some underpinnings in Sharia. It will incrementally be changed more so.

I agree with you. This is why he doesn't care if he's a one term pres_ent. Although he may constantly be saying that he's a Christian, his actions speak louder than words.

5 posted on 09/01/2010 10:39:55 AM PDT by seawolf101
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To: Patrick1
Beck is creating positive themes of unity and patriotism and freedom and independence which are above mere political or policy choices, but not irrelevant to them. Political and policy choices rest on a foundation of philosophy, culture, self-image, ideals, religion. Change the foundation, and the rest will flow from that. Defeat the enemy on that plane, and any merely tactical defeat will always be reversible.

This.
6 posted on 09/01/2010 10:41:58 AM PDT by snowrip (Liberal? You are a socialist idiot with no rational argument.)
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To: Patrick1

Great analysis and very interesting comments. I’m book marking this site.


7 posted on 09/01/2010 10:42:50 AM PDT by pgkdan (When the same man...holds the sword and the purse, there is an end of liberty: George Mason)
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To: Patrick1

I would also add, discouraging honest discussion about Islam through political correctness. Christians have had stuff sent out against them all the time, the difference is that we deal with it and either turn the other cheek or we already have our own counter-arguments against what is argued in our case. I think Islam has grown large enough to accept the responsibility of taking some criticism at this point. It’s modest, and honestly a check on Muslims thinking of becoming too extremist.


8 posted on 09/01/2010 10:44:12 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: RobRoy

If we have enough people to force the hand of the SCOTUS, Sharia law will never become a subset law of the land for a special interest group, namely Muslims. Special rights need to be struck from the law books and should disallow sharia or any other form of Law for a special group.


9 posted on 09/01/2010 10:47:29 AM PDT by ThomasMore (Patrick Henry and Joe Wilson...Patriots past and present!)
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To: Patrick1

That’s a good analysis.


10 posted on 09/01/2010 10:52:27 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: Patrick1
Restore pride and confidence to your own side, and win the long game.

As Ronald Reagan also said, there are simple solutions, just no easy solutions.


That it the keeper quote. We are finally fighting the progressives in the way that they have been fighting us. The long fight. It started with developing alternative communications channels. That allowed us to get around their strangle hold on the newspapers and the alphabet networks. Now we are attacking the basic premise of their revolution. Changing the language of debate, so that there can in fact be a debate, not just a chanting of liberal canards.

The next step will be to break the liberal monopoly on education. We cannot allow our kids to be brainwashed and expect to win. But they have handed us the tools of their own undoing. They have made their elite university education extremely expensive, and then given the government control over the student loans. We are one election from cutting their much vaunted education system of from the students. Without the loan and grant system most students will have to get educations that actually lead to getting a job. Engineering, science, business and trade schools tend to be a lot less political than the liberal arts.
11 posted on 09/01/2010 10:53:06 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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Excellent analysis. History presents the thesis again and again that philosophies or movements built upon negative values must eventually fail. The human animal appears to be a kind of shortcomings bloodhound. If there is a flaw in a system, the human will ferret it out and use it to once more firmly plant their face in the dirt. Our mission is to lay out the steps as best we can with the tools we have at our disposal. And we must do this without regard for the incoherent taunts thrown our way by those with their mouths full of earth. Truth, love, divine inspiration, and the common sense to denounce evil, or at least avoid it will eventually facilitate transcendence.


12 posted on 09/01/2010 10:58:13 AM PDT by davius (You can roll manure in powdered sugar but that don't make it a jelly doughnut.)
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To: ThomasMore

Wouldn’t Sharia Law force us to remove all wise Latinas from SCOTUS?


13 posted on 09/01/2010 11:00:28 AM PDT by Badabing Badablonde (New to the internet? CLICK HERE)
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To: Badabing Badablonde

And Jews.


14 posted on 09/01/2010 11:01:27 AM PDT by Patrick1
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The author is correct, but for such a strategy to succeed we *must* either reclaim or destroy the public school system. You can’t cure cancer without cutting it out, only treat symptoms of its spread.


15 posted on 09/01/2010 11:05:03 AM PDT by Yet_Again
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To: Patrick1
This is an interesting analysis, and one I largely agree with.

Of elections, institutions and culture, I think that the most daunting problem is (by far) institutions. As the writer correctly points out, conservatives can dominate at the polls. And the culture that Beck espouses is, after all, our own. We've forgotten them over the years but Faith, Hope and Charity are still the foundations of our culture and beliefs.

But the institutions: that part scares me. With half of the country literally dependent on the federal dole, returning to our basic principles is apt to be violent if it's even possible. Our corrupt system has become so endemic to our nation that I suspect there's no cure.

Consider this: many of us agree that a flat or "fair" tax would be remarkably helpful in returning an honest and equitable revenue stream for needed federal services. Yet I think there's no way it could happen - how many accountants would oppose it? The venal tax code assures that is is virtually impossible to prepare your taxes without the use of an expensive, controlling accountant. So the accounting industry has become a de facto component of our government.

Likewise the health care system. I'm talking pre-Obamacare here. Medicare and Medicaid are essential revenue steams for most doctors and hospitals. Their entire business plans are constructed around that large percentage of their income.

Our military, mandated by the constitution to be the institution which protects us from all enemies both foreign and domestic, has over recent decades devolved into another social program. The lion's share of the fighting is done by elite Special Forces units, while a large percentage of military personnel remain primarily to lap up jobs training programs and generous tuition benefits.

At church? Well if your church wants to be exempt from federal taxes, that institution had better play it's cards very carefully. It's no surprise that so many clergy are progressive ideologues, despite the disastrous implications of that ideology for people of faith.

Our government has successfully entwined itself like a cancer around all of our institutions, both sacred and profane. I fear that the cure could be worse than the disease.

16 posted on 09/01/2010 11:06:45 AM PDT by RetroSexual
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To: RobRoy

Every attempt will never be thwarted.
“Slippery Slope” is more than a sentence.
It is how we came to be where we currently are.


17 posted on 09/01/2010 11:07:44 AM PDT by bill1952 (Choice is an illusion created between those with power - and those without)
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But the institutions: that part scares me. With half of the country literally dependent on the federal dole, returning to our basic principles is apt to be violent if it's even possible. Our corrupt system has become so endemic to our nation that I suspect there's no cure.

Bankruptcy cures many evils. There simply is no more money. We are headed for Cuba or Zimbabwe. The totalitarian regimes can't be popular since they have no ability to give away more stuff. And that model won't work here unless Obama can gain complete control of the military, which appears unlikely.

As Margret Thatcher said, "The problem with Socialism is that eventually you run out of other peoples money."
18 posted on 09/01/2010 11:15:21 AM PDT by GonzoGOP (There are millions of paranoid people in the world and they are all out to get me.)
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To: snowrip

One thing that I think he’s doing is breaking down the barriers between good people. He’s helping us to focus on the things we have in common. He’s challenging us to look past the details that keep us apart and put an emphasis on the good things we have in common. Love of G-d, love of family, valuing marriage, living with honor, sacrificing for our children’s future, hard work, charity, etc.

I hate that so many Conservatives just can’t do it. We need to stand together right now. Good people need to unify. For me, *that* is the crux of Beck’s message.


19 posted on 09/01/2010 11:16:08 AM PDT by Marie (Obama seems to think that Jerusalem has been the capital of Israel since Camp David, not King David)
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Beck is essentially doing something I have long said is the answer to the abortion issue. If us good Christians were out there like we should be winning hearts, minds and souls with our acts of service, kindness and love, the legality of abortion would cease to be a contested issue . . . along with a lot of other problems we have as a result of cultural, moral and spiritual decay.


20 posted on 09/01/2010 11:27:26 AM PDT by RatRipper (I'll ride a turtle to work every day before I buy anything from Government Motors.)
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