Posted on 08/16/2010 4:32:53 PM PDT by onona
Hey all. So I understand all about food prep, munitions prep, and water prep. I'm looking for a medium length (12 - 24 month) storage solution for gas....Are the HDPE containers good enough ?
Thanks all.
The gas will be always available, the only question is what will they ask for it. The OP can set aside some money (comes in boxes marked ".223") for an emergency purchase, if the getaway is the main goal. You don't want to store too much gas anyway because you can't take all of it with you. You'd have to buy on the road.
if you're going to stay in place and defend, it's a different story
Only if you want to illustrate an indefensible situation :-) In the Mad Max world gangs will have numbers and weapons, and they will be after your fuel. To defend yourself you need to match their numbers and weaponry. You need a small village and a defensible terrain, and even then you are just one RPG hit away from a fiery disaster. Who said that a gang can't use a helicopter or a mortar?
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And you should expect it to go bad over time.
I thought I was pretty explicit about stabilizing it and rotating the fuel out...guess I need to work on my communication skills.
The large cities would be the worst places to be,,,
Think of the 60’s riots,,,
This “bug out” thing seems like a bad idea to me,,,
The “King” riot comes to mind,,,
I'm in the South and I will stay in my home,,,
All I mainly need is more water storage,,,
Maybe more MRE’s,,,
We can just stay home for about 3 months + or - ,,,
There are 4 vets and about 10 “Young’uns” in this area that
make a very large “kill box” ,,,
Neighborhood SWAT is in effect...;0)
You could always make and use moonshine for fuel.
The gas will be always available, the only question is what will they ask for it. The OP can set aside some money (comes in boxes marked ".223") for an emergency purchase, if the getaway is the main goal. You don't want to store too much gas anyway because you can't take all of it with you. You'd have to buy on the road.
.223 has it's uses,and I have a mini-14 chambered in that caliber, but I much prefer my 762x51/.308 Panther LR-308T from DPMS
Funny thing...I have something in every common caliber especially in the readily available "military" calibers...or I did before I lost some of them on a hunting trip a couple of years ago...
if you're going to stay in place and defend, it's a different story
Only if you want to illustrate an indefensible situation :-) In the Mad Max world gangs will have numbers and weapons, and they will be after your fuel.
To defend yourself you need to match their numbers and weaponry. You need a small village and a defensible terrain,
I like my chances
and even then you are just one RPG hit away from a fiery disaster.
I've always said I've been living on borrowed time since '68...nobody lives forever.
Since you have no idea where I live or the nature of my place (hint, it's not in a town) or where everything is sited, I'm going to allow myself a wry smile and keep on keeping on. 8^).
It's good to have a plan.
I had a bunch stored for Y2K, some in the mil steel cans, but most in plastic.
And I never used Stabil or anything else.
A few years back I checked one of the steel cans. The gas was off colored and had some small flecks of what looked like oil in it.
Used it in my lawnmower, dumped the rest in my V6 Chev Blazer, both ran fine.
This year I checked one of the other metal cans. Again, gas was off colored and didn’t have a strong odor of gas.
But I dumped it in my 66 Impala with a 350 v8 and it absolutely loved the stuff!
But here’s the rub... I would NEVER use gas that old in a little 4 banger car with injectors. That’s just askin for trouble.
Depending on the size of your tank and your usage, it is likely you will have significant degradation of fuel ovr time if you don’t have some means of mixing, unless your consumption to storage ratio is small enough.
Stabilized fuel can be good for a year or two, but ethanol can shorten that, even with Sta-bil designed for ethanol.
Below grade helps with the temp factors. But over years you will get some water in the bottom from moisture in the air.
You need a way to draw that out separately. Commercial units are typically design with a lower sump area or a second lower draw point.
I’ve been on the design & construction team of a couple refined products storage and dispensing facilities.
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