Posted on 08/16/2010 8:00:56 AM PDT by Pessimist
My 2nd and last vanity (I promise!)
I'd be interested in hearing other's thought regarding the constitutionality of existing CCW laws.
Should a person be required to undergo training and pay licensing fees to ejoy a consitutional right?
Should I be allowed to put a sign on our building stating "No Equal Opportunity Allowed Inside"?
While I'm happy we at least have the "right" to CCW in Ohio, I have trouble swallowing the whole process. Is there another constitutional right which can only be excercised after training and fees?
Several people in our class were poor and lived in bad neighborhoods. They needed the protection much more so than we do.
What if their neighbors can't afford $100+ for a class, and $67 for a permit? No rights for them?
Frankly, I find it outrageous.
And I'm torn. While I support the NRA in general, I think it's an unholy alliance between them and the gvt in that they mandate that you take a 12 hour class by an NRA certified instructor.
No self interest there, huh?
Down here in FL, if you are a Veteran or a LEO, you don’t need to take the course. Just pay the CCW license fee. IT’s a bit pricey, but well worth it.
although I have a CCW....but I do not believe we should need one.
It is our 2nd amendment right to carry...I consider these CCW laws a stopgap to be utilized before we finally get our constitutional rights back.....
...I keep my mouth shut about my opinions on the subject when talking to the issuing officer....
Here in NH, the process goes like this: fill out application to your town’s police chief. Pay $10-15 fee for a 5-year license. That’s it. Training is your responsibility.
Here in MA the process goes like this: move to NH......
Should the right to YOUR life (birth certificate notwithstanding), and the necessary corollary to defend that right be licensed?
Should the right to armed resistance against any totalitarian government be licensed?
That's what I did. ;-)
Absolutely not. The words "shall not be infringed" make that clear.
I support “Vermont-style” carry. Open, concealed, no licensing.
gotsta be in the fight to win the fight...
Technically no, but I think it does encourage responsible gun ownership. I agree that the fees are excessive.
i tried, but upon explanation that 'for the low, low price of $145, i can have 2A 'Rights' for a whole 5 yrs'...my sarc got the best of me...hopefully I wont have that problem when i am allowed to go back for the application...
However, we opened the door to this crap when we allowed cities to require permits to gather and speak in public places, which is also unconstitutional, IMO, and used mainly for the revenue but occasionally to stifle some people's first amendment rights.
I know that ammo is expensive and sometimes unavailable.
But I wish there was a way to encourage continuing firearms practice. How many people take the mandatory training and then that is the only time they fire their weapon?
Every man, woman, and responsible child has an unalienable individual, civil, Constitutional, and human right to obtain, own, and carry, openly or concealed, any weapon -- rifle, shotgun, handgun, machinegun, anything -- any time, any place, without asking anyone's permission. - L. Neil Smith. The Atlanta Declaration
I agree. Virginia has an open-carry law, but I believe it should be CC without a permit.
Concealed carry is not necessarily a defined constitutional rights. Back then it was not considered normal. For example, the North Carolina constitution, while echoing the right to keep and bear arms, specifically excludes concealed carry. It is any restriction of open carry effectively constituting a poll tax that we should be worried about from a constititutional standpoint.
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