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Are Liberals More Intelligent than Conservatives? (another broken study says so)
TheIronShrink.com ^ | April 7, 2010 | Dr. Shawn Smith

Posted on 08/14/2010 1:39:36 AM PDT by ransomnote

In psychology’s latest assault on American conservatives, evolutionary psychologist Satoshi Kanazawa has determined that “very liberal” people possess nearly a 12 point IQ advantage over those who identify as “very conservative.” Not only is the hard left more intelligent than the hard right, but they are smarter than everyone else, as well – mainstream conservative, middle-of-the-road, and even mainstream liberal.

In a blog posting at the Psychology Today website, Kanazawa baldly asserted that,

“...apart from a few areas in life (such as business) where countervailing circumstances may prevail, liberals control all institutions. They control the institutions because liberals are on average more intelligent than conservatives and thus they are more likely to attain the highest status in any area of (evolutionarily novel) modern life” (emphasis in original).

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To: Celtic Conservative

Carter was book smart. He had the proper work ethic to wade through books and become a nuclear engineer. Was he intelligent as well? I’m sure he is somewhat intelligent but not very.
Our entire education system is set up so that anyone with the perseverance can succeed. You don’t need to be a genius to do well. A lazy genius can fail just as easily as someone not so intellectually endowed simply because they have not read the material.
This is of course the way it should be. A willingness to work should in the course of life be good enough to succeed. Intelligence may or may not be part of any persons recipe for achievement (within reason of course,i’m not advocating a point that sub standard mental capacity makes no difference)but hard work will always be in the formula.
I think quantifying liberal and conservative in regards to intelligence is not a very smart way to go about the task. These are passions which are often totally disconnected from intelligence. Liberal and conservative are about how one views the world,they are instinctive and they are about ones concept of the future.


61 posted on 08/14/2010 6:19:33 AM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ransomnote

A dangerous subset of intelligent people thinks they can decide what is best for others, and rule the world.

That’s no surprise, and it doesn’t make fascism OK.


62 posted on 08/14/2010 6:35:41 AM PDT by Atlas Sneezed (Anything worth doing, is worth doing badly at first.)
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To: ransomnote
I just love the enlighten few who postulate their positions using science.

It is so reminiscent when the Nazi's with their "science" to prove that the jews were of lower intelligence and all that sh!t they used to prove their point.

I cant wait till the NAMBLA crew gets paraded out as a viable group.... oh wait the APA already did that.

Stupid me

63 posted on 08/14/2010 6:41:15 AM PDT by SERE_DOC (My Rice Krispies told me to stay home & clean my weapons! How does one clean a phase 4 plasma rifle)
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To: ransomnote
First off, we should discuss the different forms of intelligence. As stated in the article, verbal skill is not the only kind. I knew a lot of kids in high school who didn't do so well in english class (or a few others) but were whizzes when presented with a mechanical device.

Secondly, if liberals are so smart, why do they believe so many stupid things. Even after their cherished beliefs have been demolished, socialist, planned economies for example, why do they continue to believe in them? Learning from stupid mistakes is a sign of intelligence. Continuing making stupid mistakes is a sign in the other direction...stupidity. Obviously there are many libs who are very intelligent in certain aspects. But in general, common sense seems to be very deficient in the lib population.

64 posted on 08/14/2010 7:31:14 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: wiggen

I don’t think political beliefs have anything to do with intelligence. My recent g-friend was a Phd educated social work. Smarter than ill ever be. Great researcher, great college professor, etc. That said, she was so ignorant. She said “hate” in every other sentence. She openly stated she hated this person or group of people or situation. She was genuinely unhappy with herself and lashed out at people in public. My only guess is something traumatic happened to her as a child. I’ve never see such an intelligent person in a 7 year old emotional state.


65 posted on 08/14/2010 7:32:08 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: ransomnote

Liberals are mental midgets.


66 posted on 08/14/2010 7:34:14 AM PDT by goseminoles
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To: B-Chan

Is your response satire ? What liberal reasons as well as Tom Sowell, Charles Krauthammer, or Victor Davis Hanson? Your post is truly bizarre.


67 posted on 08/14/2010 7:43:37 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: ransomnote
What is the WISC, you ask? It is a gold-standard intelligence test for children up to the age of 16.
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The WISC assumes that the child has had an adequate education that is typical for a Northern European child, and can give false positives and negatives.

For example:

My 3 homeschoolers were given the WISC. My kids scored 96%, 98%, and 97% on the math portion of the WISC. Well!...Duh!...In the Saxon math books, our kids were more than four to five years ahead of the normal U.S. government schooled child and they had perfect master of the subject.

However....In a test of memory ( reciting numbers backward) on the WISC they score in 10% to 15% from the **bottom** range. When I asked my kids about this they responded that they were confused as to why anyone would want them to do something so silly.

Also...Many of the questions were fact based and had nothing whatsoever to do with intelligence. For instance, they were asked what is the capital of Greece. ( All of my kids very likely got that question wrong.)

Anyway...The three children did start community college at the ages of 13, 12, and 13, based on their outstanding ( but false) IQ scores in math. All did very well and finished all general college requirements and Calculus III by the age of 15. The two younger finished B.S. degrees in math by the age of 18. The older of these two earned a masters in math by 20. The oldest was also very successful as a nationally and internationally ranked athlete, and in studying accounting.

68 posted on 08/14/2010 7:47:14 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: wiggen

Carter was never a nuclear physicist. He took one nuclear physics course at Annapolis.


69 posted on 08/14/2010 7:55:08 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long-term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: B-Chan

Milton Friedman, Ayn Rand, William F. Buckley come to mind.

The true sign of intelligence is to see truth when the masses are utterly blind to it.

I am reminded of a incident that happened when I was in the sixth grade. I was with a group of girl scouts who were trying to pour fruit juice out of a large can. The can had one hole. I pointed out to my fellow girl scouts that the reason the juice was not flowing freely was due to the fact that the can had one hole. They were creating a vacuum inside the can. The can needed a second hole. They were furious me!

Sometimes the masses will insist on trying to pour juice out of a can with one hole. The creative person will see the solution and be the sole person to point out that the can needs two holes.


70 posted on 08/14/2010 7:57:03 AM PDT by wintertime (Good ideas win! Why? Because people are not stupid.)
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To: ransomnote
After almost 20 years in the hardware business, where a major portion of my job was working with my customers to solve problems, I learned one thing with certainty.

Many of the professors from 2 local colleges, most bankers and accountants, and most school teachers, are dumb as rocks beyond the limits of profession.

Basic principles of mechanics and electrical systems were beyond them.

71 posted on 08/14/2010 9:55:30 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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To: sten
they go on about 0bama’s 133 IQ...

How exactly do they know his IQ is 133? Has he released that number? I guess not, could it be based on his school records? No, he hasn't released them either. Then it must be based on some egghead's analysis of his speech patterns, professional accomplishments, or ability to walk on water.

I'm amazed that they awarded The Lightworker such a low number.

72 posted on 08/14/2010 10:07:42 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (For the first time in half a century, there is no former KKK member in the US Senate.)
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To: sauropod
Hayek, Lord Monckton, Thomas Sowell, Walter Williams?

Hayek, yes (Nobel Prize, 1974), but the rest: relative lightweights. (I love Lord Monckton, by the way.) Fine people, but in 100 years no one will know those names. Sorry.

The last genuinely conservative intellectual was William F. Buckley, and even he won't make the honor roll of history. Since Darwin, practically all the big names of academe have been associated with the secular-materialist worldview and/or the Revolution in some way. Hegel, Marx, Wells, Freud, Russell, Nietzsche, Wittegenstein, Wilde, Twain, the younger Curies, Oppenheimer, Shapley, von Neumann, Keynes, both Huxleys, Shaw, Sartre, Watson and Crick, Dawkins, Gould, Hawking — hell, even Carl Sagan and Ayn Rand. Up against these names we conservatives have Kipling, Belloc, Chesterton, Kirk, Tolkien, and C.S. Lewis. (Von Neumann converted to Catholicism on his deathbed, but was a materialist for most of his life. Ditto Wilde.) The last heavyweight intellectual on our team was Pasteur — probably the most brilliant man of the 19th Century. Since then, a lot of good people, but no one whose name is likely to ring down the halls of history.

73 posted on 08/14/2010 10:16:50 AM PDT by B-Chan (Catholic. Monarchist. Texan. Any questions?)
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To: goseminoles

I agree 100%. That’s why the study is faulty.


74 posted on 08/14/2010 2:23:18 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: ransomnote
Who voted for Obama?

Case closed.

Cheers!

75 posted on 08/14/2010 7:52:02 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: grey_whiskers

Best application of a litmus test yet!


76 posted on 08/14/2010 7:56:28 PM PDT by ransomnote
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To: DarthVader
Welcome aboard, sir.

What was your Masters in?

PhD in molecular collision theory here...

Cheers!

77 posted on 08/14/2010 8:59:35 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: jazzlite
Then, WA-LA, health care insurance began to pay for that kind of treatment. From that point on, the whole movement took off and has been, probably the single greatest influence for harm to this society of any source.

I've always wanted to get rich writing a self-help book (a spoof of Dr. Laura Schlessinger's book) entitled Ten Stupid Things Psychologists Do to Mess Up Your Life.

Cheers!

78 posted on 08/14/2010 9:05:06 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: B-Chan
Renaldus Magnus took down the Soviet Union despite the unanimous consent of all the cognoscenti that the US was destined to lose.

And without firing a shot.

Game, set and match to conservatives.

As far as academe -- self-selection / Gramscian infiltration.

Cheers!

79 posted on 08/14/2010 9:24:44 PM PDT by grey_whiskers (The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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