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Why the flight attendant is wrong
Toronto Star ^ | Tuesday, August 10, 2010 | Cathal Kelly

Posted on 08/10/2010 12:26:47 PM PDT by Willie Green

Edited on 08/11/2010 3:34:34 PM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

On another planet, it sounds like Steven Slater and I could have been friends.

He likes swearing, beer and rubber slides. Me, too!

But Slater is an airline attendant, or steward, or whatever

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TOPICS: Travel
KEYWORDS: flightattendant; planes; stevenslater; trains
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To: teddyballgame
Yeah, that’s gotta be part of the training. BTW, is there a person in the world who does not know how to operate a seatbelt? I’m just sayin....

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I hear you. Next time I fly, I'm leaving the flight attendants smaller tips. If they can't figure out how to do their jobs with a smile, they don't deserve 20%.

41 posted on 08/10/2010 1:19:09 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Willie Green
The problems with the airlines started when the stewardesses (attractive young women who were required to have good bodies and good attitudes) become "flight attendants" (Old women or gay men with chips on their shoulders)

A stew is no more than a glorified waitress, all things considered. And like a waitress she should add to the ambience of the flight. Unfortunately these days they never do. They've all become ugly little hitlers.

Then we move on to the rails. Where again we have no customer service. This time it's by the old men stewards who ignore you whenever you ask for something. The rails definitely have a "get up and get it yourself, you know where the club car is" mentality about them.

So the choice comes down to dealing with ugly, crabby women for a couple hours or ugly crabby men for a couple days. Hmmm hard choice but I'll have to take teh women and get it over with quickly.

Of course, if I had my druthers, I'd drive myself. Far more efficient, comfortable and friendly.

42 posted on 08/10/2010 1:20:45 PM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: trisham

Anyone who has to deal with members of the public as a company wage slave will tell you that dealing with members of the public can be stressful, particularly when having to maintain your cool at the risk of losing your job when said customers are being complete a’holes, as I’m sure is often the case with airline passengers...


43 posted on 08/10/2010 1:22:23 PM PDT by sinsofsolarempirefan
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To: John O
A stew is no more than a glorified waitress, all things considered. And like a waitress she should add to the ambience of the flight. Unfortunately these days they never do. They've all become ugly little hitlers.

Yep. I remember my first cross-country flight. I was a young Airman, E2, and had to wear my uniform for the discount ticket. It was 1976.

It was a DC-10 from Detroit to Los Angeles and was quite empty. One of the stewardesses, a young and very pretty lady, would sit down and talk to me for 30 minutes or more at a time and made sure I had soda and food the whole way.

The entire crew was nice to everybody and they really treated me well. That kind of service is gone forever.

44 posted on 08/10/2010 1:32:17 PM PDT by OldMissileer (Atlas, Titan, Minuteman, PK. Winners of the Cold War)
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To: Willie Green

Really? What is your Bambi doing other than getting us more dependent. The sad thing is that you probably vote, sad!


45 posted on 08/10/2010 1:34:22 PM PDT by mortal19440
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To: Willie Green

While I agree this is a stupid rule, everyone here knows that some person would “trip” get “hurt” suffer “pain and mental anguish” and would be awarded 500 billion dollars if all of us retarded passengers would be allowed to do this without restraint.
God bless the trial lawyers, and our screwed up legal system! They gives us rights and freedums, dontcha know?


46 posted on 08/10/2010 1:38:40 PM PDT by vpintheak (Love of God, Family and Country has made me an extremist.)
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To: chae
Try taking Amtrak to Hawaii.

Hawaii rail project may create 9,100 jobs
$5.5 million Honolulu Rail station design contract awarded

47 posted on 08/10/2010 1:45:33 PM PDT by Willie Green ("Some people march to a different drummer - and some people polka.")
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To: trumandogz

Love Amtrak! You can bring your own beer or wine onboard. Move about the ‘cabin’ while the train is moving and even when the train is pulling into the station. So much more customer friendly than flying.


48 posted on 08/10/2010 1:55:13 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Willie Green

Mr. Slater is trying to enforce the rules that the airlines require him to because of our litigious society. Attendants aren’t bitching at us for *@^%^ and giggles.

If any of the scenarios that the author so cutely and cleverly described as benign resulted in injury or PERCEIVED injury, there would be a lawsuit costing the airline. Mr. Slater’s job is primarily to prevent that.

I don’t blame him for saying screw it and I really love his glorious exit.


49 posted on 08/10/2010 1:56:38 PM PDT by Nickname
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To: alarm rider

That’s exactly it! It is why traveling via train is so much calmer. You get on the train. There are no safety rules and regulations for absolutely every move you make. You just simply... get on.


50 posted on 08/10/2010 1:57:52 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: Willie Green
“Travel with AMtrak” Still pushing the transporataion wonder of two centuries ago, I see.

Oh, let's not overlook this jewel from the article: “But you needed to butt in where you had no real business or duty.”

The cabin crew's job description covers what the steward was doing.

The writer seems to be having a bit of a Liberal snitfest.

Willie, trains are good doing what the market has them doing - moving commodities. Unless, like liberals, you see people as a commodity, accept that passenger trains are only for urban high density corridors. Even there, they must have subsidy megabucks.

51 posted on 08/10/2010 2:01:26 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Osage Orange

Staff? What staff? I get on and I see the conductor one time to give my ticket; the rest of the trip is carefree.


52 posted on 08/10/2010 2:03:19 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: RobRoy

Awesome!!! Soooo funny!!!!! thanks for the link. It made my day.


53 posted on 08/10/2010 2:11:08 PM PDT by Boxsford
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To: RobRoy

Awesome!


54 posted on 08/10/2010 2:11:25 PM PDT by Sergio (If a tree fell on a mime in the forest, would he make a sound?)
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To: Willie Green

Willie,

Trains run not on diesel fuel, or electricity, but on subsidies.

We are through with subsidies. Not to mention the slowness, discomfort, and general primitiveness of rail travel. Yeah, air gets some subsidies, but look at what an airplane or airport is compared with a train or RR station.

Since neither airport or rail station are gun friendly places, how about the sleazy, turd world, angry minority ridden neighborhoods of most train stations?

There is a reason for the saying “Wrong side of the tracks.”


55 posted on 08/10/2010 2:16:08 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
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To: Willie Green

Probably some “gold medallion” three billion mile a$$hole


56 posted on 08/10/2010 2:16:26 PM PDT by northwinds
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To: Willie Green
Willie, eat dirt and die. The flight attendant had been given a directive by HIS boss to get the passengers to remain seated until the plane stopped to avoid a lawsuit over subsequent accidents if they began to stand up early.

If he failed to follow this directive telling him to ask passengers to remain seated, he would be terminated for that. Plus, he was already having a difficult day (something customers and other unmentionables at this time NEVER take into consideration) and couldn't take it any more.

He could have easily with high level vocabulary have told the entire group off, waited patiently to disembark and then simply walked off of the plane and never returned. Opening the emergency hatch was flamboyant, but gave supervisors and authorities ammo to slap back at him. A LOT of people who deal with a disgruntled, enraged public these days simply have no recourse in the "customer comes first now matter how demented (s)he is" world of retail and customer service. The abuse that one has to endure can be overwhelming some days.

The supervisors, some of whom have already suffered by being on the front lines, make sure they're insulated from any more tirades as much as possible and simply don't care what the people on the bottom have to suffer so another dollar can be made. That attitude is one of many factors that gave us Obama as President, by the way.

57 posted on 08/10/2010 2:28:21 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: vpintheak
God bless the trial lawyers, and our screwed up legal system!

You nailed it.

58 posted on 08/10/2010 2:31:08 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (Freedom is the freedom to discipline yourself so others don't have to do it for you.)
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To: IncPen

ping to #13


59 posted on 08/10/2010 2:31:55 PM PDT by Nailbiter
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To: Willie Green

Willie Green

You have yet to reply to my last post to you in your following FR thread:

“Senate committee allocates $150 million for Houston METRO light-rail projects”

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2560557/posts

My first post to you was post #14.

Your reply to that post was post #20.

My reply to your #20 post was post #36.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2560557/posts?q=1&;page=36

I am still waiting on your answers, links and replies to my beginning questions and especially the last two questions to you that I posted in the last part in post #36.

If you can’t be civil enough to at least attempt to reply to a post directed to you (which seems to be your post-and-run M.O. on your “green” and “Train” threads here on FR) I guess I can “repost” my #36 post to you in EVERY FR thread you create until you do.


60 posted on 08/10/2010 2:44:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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