Posted on 07/21/2010 10:57:35 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
What will you do when push comes to shove? Will you accept the marxist slavery or will you fight!?
I was, ah...
...out of the country.
You're right on this - our kids have got to get out of public schools. We also need to encourage mainstream churches to have "conservative" congregations. And neighborhoods - why not encourage conservatives to live near each other? We can draw strength from each other...
I’m not sure how my thoughts on Obama’s nefarious attitude, or what I think he is plotting to do gives any indication to you as to the fiber of my character.
You sound like another internet tough guy, looking to pick a fight where there is no fight.
If me thinking that Obama would not waste a good crisis, makes me a chickensh1t in your eyes, then my friend, there are alot of chickensh1ts who post on this website.
Or, you just can’t read. In which case, the republic is dead because of folks who like you, who don’t understand the English language.
I think it might be time to take your meds.
May God bless you. I’m glad you made it home.
(I was three.)
IMHO, I think we have reached a point where in order to return our country back to our foundation, it's going to take another uprising. I hope I'm wrong.
Who am I going to shoot??? Sheesh, you are a moron. I hope, I pray, nobody. I don't know what the spark will be. But something is going to happen. And we are all going to have to choose sides. And it will be as painful and horrible as the Civil War was. I know what side I'm on. You, I'm not so sure about. I'll take A Navy Vet and Noumenon at my side rather than you. And your grandchildren can be grateful that there are some of us willing to do what it takes to restore our liberty. Freedom is a fragile thing and most definitely is not free.
When "camps" are set up - death or re-education - when that type of breakdown happens - and it's possible - every citizen needs to be ready to fight. Liberal citizens ( who are decent) , conservative citizens, Christians, Jews - all of us will have to stand up to the elite liberal totalitarians.
That doesn't mean we stand up and fight because we didn't get our way on ObamaCare etc. - I hate it, but dems elected a President - and a congress and they got this pushed through by a vote. That makes it legit. If we don't like it, we need to vote our guys in and repeal it. NO FIGHTING BECAUSE WE'RE SORE LOSERS.
You get the idea, B-Chan.
We believe in the law - the law we all have a hand in making.
But when it comes to 'camps' - we all fight. We're not going to let them take the conservative Jews - or any Jews. We're not going to let them take conservative Christians, or any Christians. We don't "do" death camps. Period. And if Johnnie joined the army to get money for college - and he's helping run the trains to the camps - he needs to go AWOL... because when he runs that train, he's fair game.
I've put in writing my line in the sand... read it.
This can be done by the states and the feds are powerless to prevent it. Once defunded, how long do you think they would be able to continue to exceed their constitutional mandate?
We've barely begun to take America back. We have to be patient. Above all, we have to remember that no matter what we do, God may have other plans.
We are no where near evenly matched with our own Military.
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Then explain Afghanistan.............
Correct. Lack of confidence that you'd ever pay up. If it came to pass that if I won that bet, I figure that turning me in would be the first thing on your "to do" list.
Hell no. Having camps for dissenters is the last thing they'll do. Instead of emulating Hitler, they're going to emulate Mao. Those who protest the New Order won't be put onto a train in broad daylight and shipped off to some barbed-wire enclosure in Iowa. Instead, they will be made to lose things; first, their jobs; then, their ability to borrow money; then, their drivers license, professional licenses, trade certifications, security clearances, passport, and other papers. For most people, this will be enough to bring them back into conformity with the party line. Hard to buy or sell or make a living with no ID.
Those whose objections become annoying will be subjected to a more stringent regime: re-education. First, there will be smear campaigns, during which dissenters will be publicly labeled as threats to the body politic. You know how the word "racist" is used today to instantly turn any conservative into a cringing lapdog? Like that, only x 100. You make enough noise and all of a sudden word gets around that you were accused of being a child molester, or a Klansman, or a militia member, or a convicted drug dealer. You lose your country club membership. Your church kicks you out. Some guy punches you in the face on a train platform and everybody laughs. Is it true? The guy on TV said it is. Get the kiddie-diddler!
If that doesn't work, they'll take your children. After all, the State has the duty to protect children from hate crime, right? Imagine a social worker leading your three-year-old son off to his new home with Ace and Gary, his two new daddies, while an agent of your local government points his gun in your face à la Elian Gonzales. What are you going to do then, Patrick Swayze?
Nothing, that's what. If you try to use your Raht Tuh Keep 'n' Bare Arms to prevent your kid from becoming a pincushion for the Ambiguously Gay Duo, you may get in a shot or two — but in the end they'll get you, and Ace and Gary will still get your kid. And the newscasters and the celebrities and all the folks on Facebook will cheer them on all the way.
For those who become a genuine threat to the regime, there is yet another tactic: disappearance. If you're a for-real troublemaker, they're not going to send a squad of jackbooted brownshirts in armbands to your door to pick you up. Instead, one night, you will simply disappear. Your mail will pile up; your yard will grow long. Eventually, one of your neighbors will call the cops to enter your home and see if you are still alive. You might very well be still alive — somewhere — but I doubt you'll be enjoying yourself. (This is what will happen to the Oathkeepers.)
And for those who are too high profile to "disappear", there are yet other ways. For example, let's say you have a favorite chair. Every night you sit in that chair, hour after hour, typing brave messages against the New Order to your fellow patriots on Free Republic. Unfortunately for you, someone broke into your home a few days ago and painted a thin, invisible stripe of radioactive strontium-90 on the arms of your chair and on your keyboard. Nasty stuff, strontium-90 -- it's highly radioactive, a strong beta emitter with a half-life of 28.8 years. Even worse, it's what they call a "bone-seeker" -- once it gets inside your body, it goes straight to your bones, bathing your tender innards in radiation 24/7. It has gotten into your body. You picked it up from the chair and keyboard and swallowed it at dinner six months ago (tacos). You've been eating it every day since then. You know that nagging cough that's been bugging you? Guess what -- it's lung cancer! And no one will ever know how you got it. Just one of those crazy things, I guess.
I hope I've made my point. This is not 1940, and the Bad Guys are not stupid enough to do anything as obvious as putting people in camps. That's a idiotic Red Dawn fantasy. Instead, they'll just intimidate you into obedience, or threaten your kids, or take away your means of earning a living. And anyone who gives them enough trouble will simply Go Away.
And that's why this whole Website Wolverine fantasy is jejeune and embarrassing, and I say to Hell with it.
I was, ah...
...out of the country
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Thanks for your service, My DH was there, too. He was USMC. My brother did two tours in the Army. Semper Fi!
Exactly!
Ultimately, only a wide spread spiritual revival will save this nation....and...our most important and urgent mission field is our children.
Food for thought...under this scenario there are no "rear" areas, no safe areas, no where to set up secure areas. I realize the navy never taught you the principles of ground combat, but the sad fact is when you make it hard for people to get to you, it makes it harder for you to get out. And tracers work both ways.
Okay, FRiend. Whatever. Enjoy life in your first-person-shooter fantasy world.
girl that saw a spider!!! EEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAKKKKK and
run and hide under the porch,,,
Wet their panties,,,
Never heard a shot fired in anger,,,
Never had to defend themselves,,,
The best word for them is “Coward”...
Who said ANYTHING about violence, shipmate???
And, what if we don't GO home?? What if we take control of the entire government, how valuable will their pictures be?
Either we are in this to save our country and restore the Constitution as the law of the land, or we are just loudmouth Internet cowards. What's it gonna be??
Idealism is great. I have ideals, and others have them.
Unfortunately, your ideals, while admirable, are naive. We have a government that is corrupt and irrevocably broken. The Tea Parties are being demonized by the DBM, and the editors ARE the DBM.
My co-workers already KNOW what’s happening and conservative organizations are full of people who are willing to stand around and talk, but NO ONE has a plan!!
So, you want to know what I would do with guns and ammo? Let me ask you first if you understand why the Founders believed in the necessity of adding an amendment to the Bill of Rights that granted the citizens the right to keep and bear arms? And, do you understand why they felt that that right was so important that they made it the SECOND Amendment to the Constitution, right behind the one we are exercising right now; Freedom of speech?
It’s about the balance of power. The balance of power is the central theme behind EVERYTHING that the Constitution establishes. That’s why there are 2 political parties, 2 houses of Congress, 3 branches of government. The Founders understood the abuses that eminate from an overbearing, bloated, tyrannical central government such as we have today. The Founding Fathers understood quite well the human psyche and the concept of “power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely”. While I’m not sure they envisioned the types of abuses we are seeing from our government today, they understood the propensity and potential for those abuses to occur.
They created a government system that didn’t need a Congress in session year-round. Greedy, power hungry politicians did. The Founding Fathers created a government system that shared power with the states and the greedy, power hungry politicians have gradually taken that away.
So, inspite of all the rhetoric today, we are reaching a standoff. The people are opposing the politicians in greater numbers, but the politicians are selectively deaf and refuse to hear us. IMO, the Founders NEVER saw that one coming because they believed in man’s greater good, than his evil. Still, they anticipated the potential for abuse by a powerful central government and granted MANY rights to the states in the Tenth Amendment.
But, for the most part, the states are not exercising their rights. Arizona is the most prominent example of one that is and Wyoming or Montana is another. The majority of states and the majority of American people are cowed by the federal government and believe it to be all powerful. That’s why we have guns - to maintaion the balance of power.
Only an idiot would believe that IF we enacted the plan I described that the government would not immediately call out the military to respond. Balance of power. The military has guns and ammo, so do we. Now the question becomes, will the military actually fire on Americans?
IMO, some will. They will follow the orders they are given and, if ordered to shoot, they will shoot. But, what will they shoot? Guns? You betcha. Tank and artillery shells at the Capitol or the WH?? I’m not so sure. Those are treasured icons of America and everything that our proud history represents. The military isn’t comprised of mind-numbed robots. Sure, they have been well trained, but let’s remember who the military is - for the most part, it is kids 18 - 26 who grew up playing with you or your kids (depending on your age). They attended the same schools, churches, movies, athletic events and the rest that you attended. It’s Donny, who sat next to you in Algebra; Shanecqua who walked with your kids to school (or rode the bus with them); Brittany who is/was your daughter’s BFF; and James who played in the band. THAT’S who the military is.
And, the military doesn’t like this president any more than we do. So, they have guns; we have guns. Will we both use them? It’s questionable, but I believe that there will be SOME violence on both sides. Balance of power.
But, at the end of the day, I believe that the majority of the military will ignore their orders and will join us to fight FOR America - the very job they are sworn to do.
One of the things yoyu wanted me to do was talk to my coworkers. AFIK, I just did. You could be in the next cube, or the cluster of cubes down the hall.
So, we both win.
Thanks. It's a plan, but I didn't say it was a GOOD plan or the best plan. FWIW, I would prefer to see states secede in a trickle, then a flood until the United States of America consists of Washington, D.C, Massachusetts, California, New York City, Michegan, Minnesota, Austin and Houston, Texas and a few other pockets around the country.
Perhaps by then, zero and his sycophants and drooling admirers will get the hint.
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