Posted on 07/21/2010 10:57:35 AM PDT by A Navy Vet
What will you do when push comes to shove? Will you accept the marxist slavery or will you fight!?
You can shoot the course with a .22, but as the instructors will tell you, you can't defend liberty with a .22. At a minimum, get an AR15 style rifle and come to the class with 400 rounds - you'll shoot that much. I shot at my Appleseed with a FAL, others came with Garands.
If not the summer of 1968, never.
We have seen in the Gulf the Coast Guard harassing vessels that were trying to help.
Without air support, any "wolverine" crap will just get you killed. Sorry folks; this aint the Revolution here. We are no where near evenly matched with our own Military.
Finally, the voice of reason. Thank God there's at least one grownup left on FR.
OMG! Your whole post is an unbelievable screed of venom against FReepers. You lament the loss of "quality" people posting on FR yet look at what you have written! I have only been here a short time, but have NEVER seen anything like this. Perhaps you would like to read over your words and reconsider or is this what you truly mean?
Thanks a lot. You managed to actually choke up an old fart like me, on the Internet of all places. I'll get you for that...haha!
Seriously, I have admired your Constitutional position and intellectual honesty for years. I can be a dumba** while drinking or just being pissed off. You are always solid. Wish I knew you in person.
Best,
Rodger
Okay, I'm gonna ramble a bit.
I don't think many of you have really thought this out. If this really comes to a physical confrontation, We're going to be picked off one by one. You think Zero is going to say 'Meet me on Main St. at high noon?' It will more like a swat team knocking on the door late at night.
If a group of armed citizens stormed the white house, they could be easily repelled and the media would have a field day talking about the right wing militia group that had to be crushed. Anything else would be considered suicide attempts on those in power and would be dealt with as such.
However, if the individual states took a firm stand, the odds would be more even, and winnable. I don't think that the powers that be are going to call out the military against a state. Or even better, a lot of states. Nor do I think the military would go along with that.
So, I think those of you who aren't just chest beaters might consider pushing to get the state you live in to back Arizona and pass similar laws, and refuse to allow Obamacare to take hold in your state. If the states would begin to protect their citizens, the citizens will protect the states.
Twenty states saying "NO MORE" and meaning it could put an end to this. I can envision a scenario where I could join a fight to protect my state butI don't see me in a shootout on my front steps. So, yeah, . . . . STATE RIGHTS.
Thank you.
Knowing the above, do you have a viable solution to restore our Constitutional heritage?
No. It cannot be restored.
This is a sincere question. Got answer? My simple answer is again: STATES' RIGHTS.
We tried that, 145 years ago. Result: 620,000 soldiers and God only knows how many innocent civilians killed, and the federal government more in control than before.
Got other? I'm open.
A return to traditional Western culture, and the political system that organically developed from it, i.e. monarchy.
Or you just giving up? No slight intended...just asking.
I'm not giving up on anything. I have a child. I can't give up. I am an optimist, and I believe in a bright future. But our current political system isn't going to be a part of that future. It is derived from a set of fundamental principles that do not accord with the world as it is. Any attempt to fix or prop up the current system is doomed to fail, and, if such an attempt involves rebellion, is going to get a lot of people killed for nothing.
My strategy is survival. The last time the world system collapsed, civilization was preserved and ultimately restored by small communities of intensely Christian monks and the communities that grew up around them. They safeguarded the spiritual and intellectual patrimony of the West while the Roman Empire crumbled. Four hundred years later, in A.D. 800, when the natural political order of the West was restored with the revival of the Roman Empire, the monasteries were there, ready to spread culture and learning across Europe.
We should be preparing to do the same, not wasting our time fantasizing about being brave freedom fighters or whatever. This isn't Star Wars, some fantasy about plucky rebels overthrowing the Galactic Empire and restoring the Republic. (The Republic, frankly, sucked, and Anakin was right about a lot of things.) This is reality, and in reality any attempt to overthrow the Empire will only result in a bunch of naïve people dying meaningless, anonymous deaths.
You know what our guys did to the towelheads in Iraq? That's what they'll do to us if they're ordered to. You may not accept that reality, but it remains real anyway. Live with it.
Geeze, I love you gals. I am fortunate that my own wife thinks the same. It always makes me love her more...and other stuff...har!
I have more respect for you than the weak a** men that populate this country and in DC now (military aside). Bless you, Dear Lady. You are what made us great, from the earliest times.
Great post. You are absolutely right.
At least we don't have to pay for your therapy. lol
Fight. I have nothing I want to keep at the expense of liberty.
I was about to compose a well thought out response, until you ended your post with that.
For all that you complained about, that one last comment indicates to me that you are as much a part of the "problem" as any newcomers to Free Republic.
If you want to run off like all of the "smart" people you waxed nostalgic over, I'll be happy to hold the door for you.
I’ll respond to this post once I get an apology for denigrating my decades of effort. Don’t want attaboys...just want you to realize you shouldn’t be so quick to judge without knowing who the poster is. If you don’t have the fortitude to simply say, “I’m sorry”, I will continue to live...ha! Many people nowadays can’t say they were wrong. Can you?
I am fascinated by your comment that “the premises upon which [this country] was founded do not accord with reality.” As you see it, just what are those premises, and why do you believe they fall short of reality?
Fair enough, but just remember not to go hunting with the Palin boys if you wanna crack on Mama Grizzly. LOL
I am afraid we’ll see that foxhole someday, so let’s make sure we have the same ammo...
I've only got .40 cal, 12 gauge, and .22 at present, but I'm working on improving that. I've also got one helluva scary pig sticker for hand to hand, if it comes to that.
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