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1 posted on 07/14/2010 4:30:27 PM PDT by Perdogg
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I was a drunk.

Jail time was the best thing that ever happened to me.


2 posted on 07/14/2010 4:31:52 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin! (look it up))
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I guarantee Lindsay will be staying off the sauce as long as her sentence lasts.


3 posted on 07/14/2010 4:32:36 PM PDT by JennysCool (My hypocrisy goes only so far)
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Sorry, as an alcoholic with nearly nine years sober, I disagree. The 90 days will give the little drunk time to dry out. Then, if she wants to get serious about treatment, it’s up to her, and she can make a clear-headed decision. AA can help her out. It’s up to her seek it out.


4 posted on 07/14/2010 4:33:56 PM PDT by hampdenkid
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The jail time is for dis-obeying the court.


5 posted on 07/14/2010 4:34:22 PM PDT by Clock King (Ellisworth Toohey was right: My head's gonna explode.)
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Gee, maybe she needs both, which is precisely what the judge has ordered. Seems reasonable to me.

She got a first chance at an alcohol diversion program (rather than jail), which she failed to meet the minimum requirements. She got a second bite at the apple, and still she failed by missing 8 out of 27 meetings.

The jail time is a punishment and an incentive - she's being punished for failing to meet the terms of her probation, and she's being incentivised to meet the terms of her new probation. The magic of due process.

Incidentally, MANY states are MUCH more punitive when dealing with a person who has two DUI's within a five-year period, to say nothing of a two-week period, a la Lindsey.

6 posted on 07/14/2010 4:36:24 PM PDT by OldDeckHand
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The threat and imposition of jail time is often required for addicts to get treatment.


9 posted on 07/14/2010 4:39:55 PM PDT by Rockingham
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She’s not being jailed for being an alcoholic, I understand.

She’s being jailed for her DUI and multiple failures to appear.


11 posted on 07/14/2010 4:42:34 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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Ratner needs help as well from a shrink.


12 posted on 07/14/2010 4:42:56 PM PDT by HANG THE EXPENSE (Life is tough.It's tougher when you're stupid.)
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She does not need jail time. She needs hard time in prison.


13 posted on 07/14/2010 4:44:14 PM PDT by bmwcyle (It is Satan's fault)
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Who the hell cares!

The little spoiled twit has contributed nothing to society, other than to spur some glossy mag sales to the addle-brained simpering idiots that buy them.

This is the most non-issue I can think of.

The world is going to hell at the hands of the likes of that damned obama and we're expected to give a rat's ass about this silly little drunk skank?

Give me a break!

14 posted on 07/14/2010 4:44:32 PM PDT by OldSmaj (I am an avowed enemy of islam and Obama is a damned fool and traitor. Questions?)
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Well then... she will move in as soon as she is out of jail. You will be her legal guardian... ratt-ner face.

LLS


15 posted on 07/14/2010 4:44:42 PM PDT by LibLieSlayer ( WOLVERINES!)
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Bull. The jail time should be a wonderful deterrent and a real consequence for a woman who seems to be very unfamiliar with the idea of consequences of one’s actions.


16 posted on 07/14/2010 4:45:21 PM PDT by SuzyQue (Remember to think.)
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Wrong. This time she needs something punitive and THEN treatment. She’s been given plenty of chances to clean up her act. Plus, she’s an idiot.


17 posted on 07/14/2010 4:46:38 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie
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No, Lindsay Lohan needs JAIL, then treatment. She needs to learn that behavior has consequences.


18 posted on 07/14/2010 4:46:38 PM PDT by redhead (BP Gulf Blowout Debacle: Obama's CHERNOBYL.)
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bringing Lindsey back down to the real world with a little bar time of the steel kind is the best thing that could happen to her


24 posted on 07/14/2010 4:53:06 PM PDT by blueplum
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Lohan needs a good, swift kick in the @ss every time she does something stupid.

Pain is a very good motivator to learn a new behavior.


25 posted on 07/14/2010 4:54:29 PM PDT by gogogodzilla (Live free or die!)
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Treatment implies illness.

Cancer needs treatment. Heart attacks need treatment.

Alcohol abuse needs punishment.

I don’t object to medical treatment for the physical symptoms, i.e., liver disease or whatever.


26 posted on 07/14/2010 4:56:09 PM PDT by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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All of the available research on alcoholism shows that it is a disease.

If it's a disease, it's self-inflicted and self-cured.

I bet anyone with a real disease like muscular dystrophy or insulin-dependent diabetes WISHES that all he or she had to do to make the symptoms evaporate, was resist the temptation to indulge in a bad habit.

Those researchers who insist on calling it a "disease" know there's a lot of money in all kinds of places at stake by doing so. Referring to it as a mere "allergy" would eliminate a zillion-dollar private and government industry.

But here's the deal: if you eat strawberries and break out in a rash, count on two things:

1. You're allergic to strawberries.
2. You're an idiot to go on eating strawberries. Refrain from eating strawberries, and you'll be fine.

Like my grandfather before me, and like countless alcoholics I have known personally over the decades, if I drink booze, I break out in handcuffs, trouble, and arrests. Reagan said it: we conservatives have simple solutions to complex problems -- not EASY solutions, but simple solutions. There is a very SIMPLE SOLUTION, a very SIMPLE CURE, for alcoholics:

STOP DRINKING.

All the counseling in the world isn't going to help an alcoholic. The alcoholic helps him or herself by making a simple decision -- not an easy one, but a simple one -- to STOP DRINKING.

23 years ago, after waking up in jail one too many times without knowing how I got there, after having one too many stitches for injuries I have no idea how I received, I finally figured out I had a decision to make: keep on drinking and kill myself and hurt the people I loved most, or stop drinking and live.

Curtain #1 or Curtain #2? Hmmmmm ...

Life isn't fair and nobody -- NOBODY -- said it was. Some of us can't handle our booze and the responsibility for dealing with it lies with the individual who has the problem, NOT the rest of the world, not counselors, not doctors.

28 posted on 07/14/2010 5:00:23 PM PDT by Finny ("Raise hell. Vote smart." -- Ted Nugent)
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Lohan Needs Treatment -- Not Jail Time

I understand that Bill Clinton has offered to "counsel her"

Ooh wheee!

29 posted on 07/14/2010 5:02:51 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Who allowed the worst oil pollution disaster in American history and did nothing?)
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Who’s sick and tired reading about this rich spoiled brat? Raise your hands.


31 posted on 07/14/2010 5:09:54 PM PDT by teletech (Say NO to RINOS!)
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