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Even Harry Potter Pic Loses Money Because Of Warner Bros' Phony Baloney Net Profit Accounting
Deadline Hollywood Daily ^
 | July 6, 2010
 | Nikki Finke
Posted on 07/07/2010 11:17:18 AM PDT by C19fan
Signing a deal that makes anyone a net profit participant in a Hollywood movie deal has always been a suckers bet. In an era where studios have all but eliminated first dollar gross and invited talent to share the risk and potential rewards, guess what? Net profit deals are still a sucker's bet. I was slipped a net profit statement (below) for Harry Potter and The Order of the Phoenix, the 2007 Warner Bros sequel. Though the film grossed $938.2 million worldwide, the accounting statement below conveys that the film is still over $167 million in the red.
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TOPICS: TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: accounting; boycotttimewarner; cookedthebooks; fraud; harrypotter; hollywoodvalues; warner
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    OMG. The WB claims they spent $131 MM on marketing and $315 MM in negative costs??? Production should of been in the $150 MM - $200 MM range.
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:17:24 AM PDT
by 
C19fan
 
To: C19fan
    The CBO would be happy to confirm that none of their movies ever makes a profit.
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:26:42 AM PDT
by 
E. Pluribus Unum
("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
 
To: C19fan
    Oh, please. Nikki Finke has been around long enough to know this is the way the studios do their accounting. "Lord of the Rings" made billions, but because of accounting procedures at New Line it will never show a profit so it can't pay the actors who have merchandising deals with the studio. I know because I get the quarterly accounting statements.
Its show-biz 101, if you have a backend or net deal on a movie, you have worthless paper.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:27:19 AM PDT
by 
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
 
To: Deb
    True enough but I have never seen some actual numbers before.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:28:52 AM PDT
by 
C19fan
 
To: Deb
    As David Mamet said, “There is no Net.”
This really came out in the Art Buchwald “Coming to America” plagiarism trial.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:34:37 AM PDT
by 
MediaMole
 
To: C19fan
    Its pretty funny really. First I always to check to make sure the “Total Profit” number is, as usual, “0”, then I try to figure out how they came to it. Not easy when the three movies took in over 6 billion dollars, but they manage it every quarter.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:35:27 AM PDT
by 
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
 
To: MediaMole
    Exactly right. Buchwald didn't care how much money it took or how many years they stalled, he was determined to go all the way. It only got him a fraction of what he spent, but he died a happy man.
Jim Garner is another one who had a % of "The Rockford Files" and couldn't understand why he never saw a penny even though the show ran in syndication and overseas for decades. He fought an extraordinary battle to get to Universal's "third set of books" and finally won after years and years.
Its always a gamble to launch these fights because the studios will do their best to make sure you never work again.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:42:44 AM PDT
by 
Deb
(Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
 
To: C19fan
    This is an open secret in the business. Everyone knows this except illiterate noobs, and they are the only ones who get burned by it. 
 No sympathy.
 Read any book on the film biz, and it will tell you about this practice.
 Here's another secret: Avatar didn't cost $1 billion either. 
  

Frowning takes 68 muscles. 
 Smiling takes 6. 
 Pulling this trigger takes 2.
 I'm lazy.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:49:36 AM PDT
by 
The Comedian
(Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
 
To: C19fan
    Damn, I want THOSE accountants to work on my tax returns!
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:52:23 AM PDT
by 
Cyman
 
To: C19fan
    Culture of corruption. Crooked books. Been that way for decades.
Funny how a film “never turns a profit” (so the screenwriter et al don’t have to be paid any bonus on a box-office hit) yet they will up for 3 sequels right away.
No one throws that much money down a drain trying to make a loss profitable.
Well, no one except Obama.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:57:46 AM PDT
by 
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
 
To: C19fan
    So when will Congress investigate “Big Film” and the shady business practices of Hollywood?.. oh wait, there is nothing to see here... keep it moving...
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 11:59:13 AM PDT
by 
Nat Turner
(I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
 
To: C19fan
    Hollywood Reds love “redistributing” the wealth.
And yet if a “protected” director or star’s project tanks, the loss can be written against some smaller (or blacklisted) filmmaker’s project crippling his own career.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:00:09 PM PDT
by 
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
 
To: Nat Turner
    Big Media doesn’t pay songwriters or recording artists their royalties either.
Remember that the next time the industry gets uppitty about how bootlegging is huring performers. It doesn’t help them much but their own labels screw them worse than any other criminal enterprise.
Send in an accountant and you’ll never go away empty handed.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:03:49 PM PDT
by 
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
 
To: C19fan
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:04:07 PM PDT
by 
Smogger
 
To: C19fan
    Though the film grossed $938.2 million worldwide, the accounting statement below conveys that the film is still over $167 million in the red. The good Marxists in Hollywood want higher taxes for you, but they won't be paying income taxes since they are losing money on every film.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:08:23 PM PDT
by 
RJL
 
To: a fool in paradise
    This is yet another example of the corruption and "crony capitalism" that keeps feeding the left and their associated libtards. The only way we will get this country back is starve the beast...I bet if consumer spending fell by 50%, I'm sure the government would get the message about cutting the budget . 
  
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:10:12 PM PDT
by 
Nat Turner
(I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
 
To: C19fan
    Imagine how the recent history of movies might have been if George Lucas had developed “Star Wars” from within this kind of system. Given that it took his profits from this movie and its offspring to build Industrial Lighting and Magic as well as the foundations of Pixar, we can imagine how different things might have been without his ownership of Star Wars licensing rights.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT
by 
SES1066
(Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
 
To: Nat Turner
    It has nothing to do with “capitalism”. It is outright redistribution.
Shell-game socialism.
The Politburo in Russia and in Orwell’s Animal Farm lived high.
Not everyone is poor under Communism.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:15:53 PM PDT
by 
a fool in paradise
(I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
 
To: C19fan
    The WB claims they spent $131 MM on marketing and $315 MM in negative costs??? Any bets on whether WB owns the marketing and negatives companies they contracted with?
 What should a studio executive do if his movie makes a net profit? Shoot the accounting department as a warning to future accountants... and then charge the bullets' cost against the net.
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:15:53 PM PDT
by 
KarlInOhio
(Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
 
To: Deb
    How do they hide that much money?
 
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posted on 
07/07/2010 12:22:06 PM PDT
by 
chuck_the_tv_out
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