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OMG. The WB claims they spent $131 MM on marketing and $315 MM in negative costs??? Production should of been in the $150 MM - $200 MM range.
1 posted on 07/07/2010 11:17:24 AM PDT by C19fan
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The CBO would be happy to confirm that none of their movies ever makes a profit.
2 posted on 07/07/2010 11:26:42 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The only stable state is the one in which all men are equal before the law." -- Aristotle)
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Oh, please. Nikki Finke has been around long enough to know this is the way the studios do their accounting. "Lord of the Rings" made billions, but because of accounting procedures at New Line it will never show a profit so it can't pay the actors who have merchandising deals with the studio. I know because I get the quarterly accounting statements.

Its show-biz 101, if you have a backend or net deal on a movie, you have worthless paper.

3 posted on 07/07/2010 11:27:19 AM PDT by Deb (Beat him, strip him and bring him to my tent!)
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This is an open secret in the business. Everyone knows this except illiterate noobs, and they are the only ones who get burned by it.

No sympathy.

Read any book on the film biz, and it will tell you about this practice.

Here's another secret: Avatar didn't cost $1 billion either.


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8 posted on 07/07/2010 11:49:36 AM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
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Damn, I want THOSE accountants to work on my tax returns!


9 posted on 07/07/2010 11:52:23 AM PDT by Cyman
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Culture of corruption. Crooked books. Been that way for decades.

Funny how a film “never turns a profit” (so the screenwriter et al don’t have to be paid any bonus on a box-office hit) yet they will up for 3 sequels right away.

No one throws that much money down a drain trying to make a loss profitable.

Well, no one except Obama.


10 posted on 07/07/2010 11:57:46 AM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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So when will Congress investigate “Big Film” and the shady business practices of Hollywood?.. oh wait, there is nothing to see here... keep it moving...


11 posted on 07/07/2010 11:59:13 AM PDT by Nat Turner (I can see NOVEMBER from my house....)
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Hollywood Reds love “redistributing” the wealth.

And yet if a “protected” director or star’s project tanks, the loss can be written against some smaller (or blacklisted) filmmaker’s project crippling his own career.


12 posted on 07/07/2010 12:00:09 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (I wish our president loved the US military as much as he loves Paul McCartney.)
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hollywood_accounting


14 posted on 07/07/2010 12:04:07 PM PDT by Smogger
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Though the film grossed $938.2 million worldwide, the accounting statement below conveys that the film is still over $167 million in the red.

The good Marxists in Hollywood want higher taxes for you, but they won't be paying income taxes since they are losing money on every film.

15 posted on 07/07/2010 12:08:23 PM PDT by RJL
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Imagine how the recent history of movies might have been if George Lucas had developed “Star Wars” from within this kind of system. Given that it took his profits from this movie and its offspring to build Industrial Lighting and Magic as well as the foundations of Pixar, we can imagine how different things might have been without his ownership of Star Wars licensing rights.


17 posted on 07/07/2010 12:14:49 PM PDT by SES1066 (Cycling to conserve, Conservative to save, Saving to Retire, will Retire to Cycle.)
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The WB claims they spent $131 MM on marketing and $315 MM in negative costs???

Any bets on whether WB owns the marketing and negatives companies they contracted with?

What should a studio executive do if his movie makes a net profit? Shoot the accounting department as a warning to future accountants... and then charge the bullets' cost against the net.

19 posted on 07/07/2010 12:15:53 PM PDT by KarlInOhio (Gun control was originally to protect Klansmen from their victims. The basic reason hasn't changed.)
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If you believe the studio accountants, the last picture to turn a profit was Gone With the Wind, and it didn't break even until 1973.
22 posted on 07/07/2010 12:32:40 PM PDT by Pilsner
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Maybe these Hollywood types are onto something. Let's see if we can apply the same concept to a broadway show!

23 posted on 07/07/2010 12:56:10 PM PDT by VRWCmember
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I was in a movie that was bringing in around $20,000,000 per week when it was released. In fact, it was number one in “per screen earning”. The budget was $6,000,000 and about half of that number was B.S. They still say it didn’t make a profit.

This was the same studio that James Garner sued over THE ROCKFORD FILES. It was the number one show on T.V. and they told Garner it was losing money so they didn’t have to pay him his share. He sued and won.

Art Buchwald sued Paramount for stealing COMING TO AMERICA. He was awarded a percentage of the net profits. Guess what. It lost money according to the accountants and he didn’t get on penny.

Gross profits AND the right to have your own accountant run the numbers is the only way you won’t get screwed.


24 posted on 07/07/2010 1:12:48 PM PDT by Terry Mross ( Democrat-Republican, whatever)
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I read the book “Fatal Subtraction” a few years back, which detailed Art Buchwald’s treatment for “King For a Day,” which was eventually reworked into “Coming To America.” Not only did his contract call for a percentage of net profits, but Paramount released “CtA” without any acknowledgement of the “KFaD” story treatment. Buchwald sued for breach of contract & copyright infringement, only to discover that the $150 million box office + video sales translated into a net loss. Not only was it a net loss, but the way the books were kept, the more tickets & videos sold, the greater the loss!


26 posted on 07/14/2010 3:22:18 PM PDT by MikeD (We live in a world where babies are like velveteen rabbits that only become real if they are loved.)
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