Posted on 06/17/2010 5:25:53 AM PDT by Polarik
The former Honolulu elections clerk who maintains President Obama was not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State is promoting a simple way to resolve the uproar over eligibility, at least for the future.
Tim Adams, 45, senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, says all candidates for all offices should be required to prove their identity and eligibility before they can even run.
"The easiest way would be to pass legislation saying everyone has to verify their identity when they're running for office," Adams told WND in an exclusive interview last week. "I do think requiring everyone to certify their identity would probably solve the entire controversy."
Adams stresses the requirement should be for all political contests, from the presidency down to local races, to make sure officeholder-wannabes are who they to make sure officeholder-wannabes are who they say they are, and live in the proper district, for instance."
You bet he should --
“You think a law requiring someone to show identity is the same as a law banning people of different races from running?”
It was a point-in-time reference, not a literal, moral, or racial one.
It would be a leap back in time, before the passage of the 10th Amendment, to adopt Adams great “solution” for getting the federal government dictate who can or cannot run in local elections like city commissions.
On the other hand, my Homeowners Association already requires everyone to be a natural-born citizen. :-)
OUTSTANDING POST OF THE DAY AWARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
If state ID laws passed, Obama would present a copy of his Hawaii Certification of Live Birth along with a letter from the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health stating that he is a natural born citizen and a notarized transcript of the Republican Govenor of Hawaii, Linda Lingle declaring that Obama was born at Kapi’olani Medical Center.
Whatever proof of birth that is accepted for the issuance of a US passport is an official birth document according to federal law and the Hawaii COLB is accepted for passports.
The state of Hawaii even created an internet FAQ just about Obama’s birth documents:
http://hawaii.gov/health/vital-records/obama.html
“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, Director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai‘i State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama
was born in Hawai‘i and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement
or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”
Obama’s most ardent political opponents may not accept any of the above as proof, but Judges and Justices sure have.
Eight different Obama eligibility lawsuit appeals have been rejected for hearings by the US Supreme Court.
Chiyome Fukino broke Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18a when she made that statement, since it reveals what is on a birth certificate, beyond what is authorized to be disclosed as index data.
And if her statement actually claimed that Obama WAS born in Hawaii (and not just that the BC CLAIMS he was born in Hawaii) then she did not follow the law because Obama has never presented his birth certificate to her as evidence - probably because the only instance in which she would be authorized to determine whether the evidence provided was legally sufficient is in the case of a person’s initial application for a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. But that program was discontinued in 1972 and her office told me that Obama does not have a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. If he ever converted his COHB to a birth certificate it would be converted to a LATE birth certificate, which doesn’t qualify as prima facie evidence - and Hawaii law requires that the probative value of a late and/or amended BC (Obama’s is both) be determined by an administrative or judicial body or person when the BC is presented as evidence.
There is thus no process in place now for Obama to submit his BC to Fukino as evidence. She KNOWS that she cannot say where Obama was born. At this point only a judge or court can determine that. Neither Nancy Pelosi nor anybody in the DNC or HDP was ever able to determine that even if they DID see his BC (which none of them even ASKED to see). Without a legal determination of the facts of Obama’s birth - from a judge or court - Obama is absolutely an undocumented worker, not even qualified to receive a federal paycheck.
Fukino knows this. She always has. She should be sitting in jail right now, along with everybody else who broke (at the very minimum) the federal false statement act which makes it a crime to deceive Congress(either by what you say or DON’T say). I know all my Congress-critters relied on the statements of the HDOH as well as the silence of Obama in not telling us all that the FTS and FActcheck COLB’s are forgeries (which he has known all along).
No question that a multitude of people broke that law.
But as I’ve been saying all along, the question isn’t whether laws were broken. The question is whether there is ONE PERSON who has both the authority and the courage to actually enforce the laws. One person. And we can’t find one person.
I don’t know why God hasn’t buried us all in burning sulfur yet. There were at least a couple righteous people in Sodom and Gomorrah and He buried them. Among all the leaders chosen by this country, we can’t even find one who has the authority and courage to enforce a multitude of laws broken by a multitude of people.
The law you refer to is the Immigration Reform and Control [IRCA] Act of 1986 - signed by Reagan. I wrote about this extesively in 2008.
Among other things, it provided a method for a path to citizenship for illegals and the regulations for the deportation of aliens convicted of crimes - but its main provision mandated that employers verify work eligibility of employees.
If I remember correctly, NO ONE [employer-wise] is exempt from verifying this - requiring 3 pieces of ID. It is up to the prospective employee to prove that he meets the requirements for the job. There is one exception - for certain domestic workers. The Federal Government is also required to abide - and the standard federal employment form now contains a section on this.
Obama, being a federal employee, is subject to this act. Since he also has a requirement to be “natural-born” - he should have to prove that he meets the requirement.
Do you know who is authorized to enforce this? Specifically, does it have to be somebody at the federal level? Could a state AG investigate, arrest, and prosecute whoever is responsible in the federal government to do this and who failed to do so for Obama?
Does anybody know exactly what a state AG has the authority to investigate? Can they investigate federal crimes?
It is excellent!
What?? I’ve been saying this since way before Adams appeared!
I went even farther and said that 0bagger won’t run in ‘12!! Some SoSs will require proof of eligibility from ALL candidates, especially if the republicans grow some stones and run a naturalized citizen against him. When that citizen is refused a place the ballot, he/she will have “STANDING” to sue and demand leveling the playing field!!
If this happens, it won’t be called ridiculous. A ruling to solve the eligibility issue will have to come about.
Thanks for the ping LucyT!
Chiyome Fukino broke Hawaii Revised Statute 338-18a when she made that statement, since it reveals what is on a birth certificate, beyond what is authorized to be disclosed as index data.
And if her statement actually claimed that Obama WAS born in Hawaii (and not just that the BC CLAIMS he was born in Hawaii) then she did not follow the law because Obama has never presented his birth certificate to her as evidence - probably because the only instance in which she would be authorized to determine whether the evidence provided was legally sufficient is in the case of a person’s initial application for a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. But that program was discontinued in 1972 and her office told me that Obama does not have a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth. If he ever converted his COHB to a birth certificate it would be converted to a LATE birth certificate, which doesn’t qualify as prima facie evidence - and Hawaii law requires that the probative value of a late and/or amended BC (Obama’s is both) be determined by an administrative or judicial body or person when the BC is presented as evidence.
There is thus no process in place now for Obama to submit his BC to Fukino as evidence. She KNOWS that she cannot say where Obama was born. At this point only a judge or court can determine that. Neither Nancy Pelosi nor anybody in the DNC or HDP was ever able to determine that even if they DID see his BC (which none of them even ASKED to see). Without a legal determination of the facts of Obama’s birth - from a judge or court - Obama is absolutely an undocumented worker, not even qualified to receive a federal paycheck.
Fukino knows this. She always has. She should be sitting in jail right now, along with everybody else who broke (at the very minimum) the federal false statement act which makes it a crime to deceive Congress(either by what you say or DON’T say). I know all my Congress-critters relied on the statements of the HDOH as well as the silence of Obama in not telling us all that the FTS and FActcheck COLB’s are forgeries (which he has known all along).
No question that a multitude of people broke that law.
But as I’ve been saying all along, the question isn’t whether laws were broken. The question is whether there is ONE PERSON who has both the authority and the courage to actually enforce the laws. One person. And we can’t find one person.
I don’t know why God hasn’t buried us all in burning sulfur yet. There were at least a couple righteous people in Sodom and Gomorrah and He buried them. Among all the leaders chosen by this country, we can’t even find one who has the authority and courage to enforce a multitude of laws broken by a multitude of people.
Since signed releases of informaation are also confidential, unless Dr. Fukino is subpoenaed and asked that question under oath and directly and a judge rules that she must answer the question as to whether she has a signed release from Obama or not, we will probably never know.
The Hawaii Department of Health has confirmed that they consulted with the state Attorney General’s office about Obama’s birth documents. Any lawyer in the Attorney General’s office who passed a bar exam is going to tell Fukino to get a signed release before saying anything to anybody about anything.
Obama could also sign a “release of confidential information” form tomorrow and back date it to before Dr. Fukino’s public statements and she’d be covered although back dating a release of information form is illegal, it’s practically impossible to catch (if you use the same color ink and pen).
He’s an Obot. All he has done since he joined FR is bash Bush, Reagan, Palin, any conservative and run interference for libs.
Wonderful post. Thank you so much for writing it!
It is what I want to say to every FReeper (troll?) who comes on to the eligibility threads telling us we are crazy and wasting our time.
I end up sounding like a hyper nut when addressing the naysayers.
You respond much better.
Thanks for writing it....(now I have something intelligent to point to).
Cute, but irrelevant to the issue under discussion.
BEST POST OF THE WEEK!
You're dreaming. There's no way Obama would ever present that alleged COLB to anyone of authority. Ther rest of that stuff you've mentioned is hearsay.
You’re welcome, Aurorales.
No, she only broke that statute if what she said in her statement is actually on a birth certificate ... but she never said that information was on Obama's birth certificate. And she IS authorized to reveal ANYTHING she wants as Index Data. 388-18(d) gives the director discretionary authority ... but she never said her statement was information from the index data either.
In effect, Obama has virutally no right to privacy as a public figure. And in effect, he gave up any right to privacy by posting the alleged COLB. BTW, nothing in the Hawaii law on vital records allows for a "release of confidential information" form.
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