Resolving the Obama eligibility question

That is my biggest issue...I trust very few freepers beyond 2006...

That’s your prerogative. Being a fellow freeper doesn’t grant automatic trust.

Wow — I didn’t know that consultants for the U.S. Navy
got summer vacations.

One of the benefits of consultantships is the time off in the period between the end of a contract and the beginning(hopefully) of the next one.

One of the downsides of consultantships is that if you don’t win the new contract, Summer vacation can turn into Fall vacation, winter vacation and Spring vacation.

Examples?

ping

You keep repeating flawed talking points. No AG or DA can get do what you claim by themselves. They have to get a court to go along with them. Your idea about Patrick Fitzgerald is good, but you’re misrepresenting history. Libby was a consolation prize because he couldn’t convict anyone of outing Valerie Plame.

Hawaii law requires that the certification include a statement affirming that a political party’s nominees for president and vice president meet the Constitutional qualifications for the office.

Something else about Hawaii law that we didn't know in 2008. It allows candidates to challenge each other through the chief elections officer on findings of eligibility to be on the ballot. If Obama decides to run in 2012, he better hope Alan Keyes isn't running too. Once a hearing is granted under the law, then Keyes would qualify under Hawaii statutes to get verification of Obama's vital records.

I hadn’t heard that. If you have a link handy, please point me to it. It’d be interesting to read more about the procedures and requirements of that challenge process.

If Obamao does run in 2012, which I’m not convinced he will, he’ll face trouble in more than just Hawaii. The issues I’ve been addressing privately for over a year now in Texas are slowly progressing through the channels. And so are the efforts of a small army of Texans. We’ll be prepared for him (and the Texas Democratic Party) legally if he attempts to file here in 2012.

The COLB?

Kenyan official: Obama born here, “not even a native American.”

During debate over the draft of a new Kenyan constitution, James Orengo, the country’s minister of lands and a member of parliament for the Ugenya constituency, cited America’s election of a Kenyan-born president as an example of what can be accomplished when diverse peoples unite:

The Kenyan lawmaker told the nation’s parliament last month that Barack Obama was born in Africa and is therefore “not even a native American.”

The full quote; “If America was living in a situation where they feared ethnicity and did not see itself as a multiparty state or nation, how could a young man born here in Kenya, who is not even a native American, become the President of America? It is because they did away with exclusion. What has killed us here is exclusion; that once Mr. Orengo is President, I know of no other place than Ugenya. That is why we were fighting against these many Presidencies in the past. I hope that Kenya will come of age. This country must come of age. People want freedom and nations want liberation, but countries want independence.”
http://www.bunge.go.ke/parliament/downloads/tenth_forth_sess/Hansard/RDRAFT25.03P.pdf

UPDATE: The Kenyan Government is scrubbing this document. I have uploaded it here LINK

The statement is on page 31 of the PDF document. Also when did the United States do away with exclusion? What exclusion? The Natural Born Citizen clause? When was this done?

So who is James Orengo?

James Orengo, (James Jimmy-Jimmy Owadgi Adhiambo Orengo) is a lawyer and former presidential candidate in Kenya. Orengo has since been sworn in as a Minister for Lands in the new Coalition Government formed by the National Accord Act of 2008. As of 2007 he is still the SDP chairman. The party supported Raila Odinga of Orange Democratic Movement at the 2007 general elections. Raila Odinga is the first cousin of Barack Obama.

Additional information and previous posts of Kenyan officials stating Obama is Kenyan

Kenyan Parliament says Obama is Kenyan after the 2008 election

Kenyan Historian says Obama is Kenyan

Michelle Obama syas Kenya is Obama’s ‘HOME COUNTRY’

Prove it to yourself – So easy ANYONE can do it

Prove it to yourself – So easy ANYONE can do it

Posted on December 2, 2009 by nobarack08

So easy ANYONE can do it

For over 15 months I have been stating that the Obama COLB posted on Fight the Smears and FactCheck are forgeries. The Obama supporters have attempted to ridicule and misrepresent the facts, of those who question the validity of a single document, the Certification of Live Birth posted on Fight the Smears and FactCheck.

Here lies the challenge to everyone that wants to see for themselves, by their own hand evidence of document forgery.

Here are the files that you will need, please note that these image are HIGH Resolution images with the exception of the FTS one, all the others are large images.

COLB #2 without SEAL

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_3.jpg

size 2304 x 3072

Date Signature

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_9.jpg

size 3072 x 2304

Raised seal

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_1.jpg

size 2304 x 3072

Veritcal #3 with SEAL

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_5.jpg

2304 x 3072

COLB #3 in its side

http://www.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/birth_certificate_2.jpg

size 3072 x 2304

FTS

http://www.fightthesmears.com/images/28.jpg

size 585 x 575

DailyKos

http://palabre.files.wordpress.com/2009/09/bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg

size 2427 x 2369

All you need to do is the following;

Download the files and save to your hard drive.
Browse to the folder that you saved the files to.
Right click on the file and in the menu select ‘Open with’ and choose ‘Paint’
This will open the selected file in Microsoft Paint.
You don’t have to resize the image, as it would be better if you viewed if full size.
With the image opened, you have 2 options. Go to the Menu bar and select ‘Image’ and then ‘Invert colors’ or use the Ctrl + I keys.
Save that file as xxxxInv, where xxx is the original file name and INV stands for Inverted.
Now compare the images.
Note the following;
28.jpg has no SEAL applied to it
birth_certificate_1.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
birth_certificate_2.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
birth_certificate_3.jpg shows NO indications of an any line breakage and paper perforation by anything let alone an embossed SEAL.
birth_certificate_5.jpg shows CLEAR indications of an embossed SEAL.
birth_certificate_9.jpg is the
bo_birth_certificate-kos.jpg shows NO indications of an any line breakage and paper perforation by anything let alone an embossed SEAL.

There you have your evidence, three different COLB posted. Using only your operating system, and a very simple graphics program with nothing else you have been able see with your own eyes the evidence of document forgery. Without having to adjust the brightness or contrast, hue and saturation, you can plainly see the evidence. How can indentations and perforations be clearly seen on one image and totally absent the next?

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Prove it to yourself – So easy ANYONE can do it Pt 2

Posted on December 8, 2009 by nobarack08

In an ongoing effort to educate those about the COLB fogery. I have been holding some cards back. Now it’s time to ”Cry Havoc! And slip the dogs of war”.

There are those that claim, that the COLB off “FTS’ Fight the Smears is scanned and therefore defects and other items are not going to be picked up. Or that the high resolution images off FactCheck are just as deceptive. Well lets take a look at these. First off the image off The DailyKos is (w) 2427 x (h) 2369 to compare this to the average users desktop which currently is (w) 1280 x (h) 1024 – hence this document the DailyKos posted is over two (2) times the size, the even higher resolution images off FactCheck come in at a whopping (w) 2304 x (h) 3072 or close to three (3) times the size of the standard desktop resolution, some of the FactCheck images are rotated to the side and therefore some are (w) 3072 x (h) 2304 respectfully.

There is a filter that can be applied to digital images called Statistical Image Enhancement [We will refer to this as SEI]. Which is defined as ‘The present invention relates to image enhancement by exploiting statistical properties of reference images. In particular, images may be sharpened by reconstructing missing frequency components in accordance with statistical constraints that are determined from higher order statistical properties of a reference image that corresponds to the difference of the original image and a lowpass filtered version thereof. This form of statistical image enhancement may also be applied to image and video coding in order to achieve superior image qualities at higher compression gains by transmitting statistical properties of the coding error together with the encoded images.’

Digital enhancement is routinely done in the field of astronomy. With the advent of CCD imaging, and software that allows even the basic amateur astronomers, to capture and enhance images caputred in with the basic of telescopes. Go to the Meade Telescope web-site and browse through the gallery section, or a simple google search of the same. Here is a good resource, http://www.willbell.com/aip/index.htm

Now this leads us to the images posted on the internet refered to the the previous “Prove it to yourself – So easy ANYONE can do it” Some comments that I recieved complained that MS Paints is to basic a program, that is the point, without any special software, it is possible to detect the forgery. Now let’s move on to further establish the forgery is self-evident.

There is a nifty freeware program called ‘Image Analyzer’. This program will be a treat for most computer users as it can manipulate pictures from the net or digital cameras.

Now we are going to take the next stair up the forgery staircase. If you have downloaded and kept the images off the original “Prove it to yourself – So easy ANYONE can do it” you can use the same ones for this exercise. Off my blog are some additional images. Download the following images. The Decosta Birth Certificate, The Tomoyasu Birth Certificate, The Covered 1990 Certificate, The Edith Rear images. Then after installing Image Analyzer, open the individual images and then go to the menu bar and select the ‘Operations’ – ‘Color Correction’ – ‘Statistical image enhancement…’ option, a pop-up will appear with the mathematical equation and the default entry of 0.5. You can change this or keep it and then click on ‘OK’, at this point the process will begin and depending on the size of the image, your compter’s processing power it might be a few seconds to even a minute.

Notice that in the above images and the original ones in the previous exercise, you can clearly see the indications of the SEAL being applied to the certificates and certifications with the exceptions of FactCheck #2. WHY? Is this not supposed to be the same document as the DailyKos document (which again, HAS NO SEAL, but that was apparently scanned), or ‘FTS’ Fight the Smears (again another scanned image that has no SEAL), or the FactCheck #3 that clearly shows an embossed SEAL (but not the type defined by the State of Hawaii), so how does FactCheck #2 account for it’s existence?

Here is an original Hawaiian Certification and the SEI version;

Even this one that is NOT scanned shows evidence of the embossed SEAL.

So why doesn’t the following images show any evidence of an embossed SEAL?

FTS – Fight The Smears

The DailyKos supposed scanned imaged [resized from the original]

Or FactCheck #2

So in reality we are not talking about ONE image or document that does not contain the SEAL, we are talking about the DailyKos image that was posted in mid-June 2008 [that is a high resolution image], the FTS image posted in Aug 2008 and the FactCheck # 2 document [another high resolution] image posted after that. Now, just to be fair, here is the FactCheck #3 that does show embossing of a non-State of Hawaii issued SEAL applied. [Image resized, and area enlarged to see embossing visible]

Now I would like to remind you what the State of Hawaii has stated.

The SEAL is applied by machine and there is lettering, that lettering being “Department of Health” and “State of Hawaii”. So how does the Seal disappear and reappear and disappear off the same document?

Part 3 will also explore another aspect of digital enhancement.

“Cry Havoc! And slip the dogs of war”.

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Prove it to yourself – Pt 3

Posted on December 13, 2009 by nobarack08

In the first and second part of this series, we have looked at the forged COLB as presented and shown the irregularities between an actual one issued by the State of Hawaii and the ones presented by TheDailyKos, Fight the Smears [FTS], and FactCheck. Now for the blank template itself and the simple question. How or why would a blank ‘Certification of Live Birth’ be showing any indications of a SEAL present on it. Here is the original Blank Hawaiian template that has been circulating on the internet. Notice that the blanked out certificate number is identical to the one posted on FTS. The process for the issuance of a Birth Certificare or Certification of Live Birth, is that the data is printed out on via a printer, the information checked and verified and then a Seal from the issuing authority and signiture is applied. So the question remains, how does a blank certification of live birth exist with anomolies exist. Here is a Hawaiian Blank Template with filters applied to bring out the anomolies in the area where an embossed seal is normally applied and the date stamp. Note this is also the same date that appears on the Obama COLB. Here is the Hawaiian Blank COLB. Note that the Certificate number is blacked out and the date stamp is visible Jun 6 2007. I recieved several comments that asked me to post the Hawaiian Blank template.

Here are three different images showing the anomalies in the area that a SEAL would be applied. All on the blank template.

Now we look at an what an Obama supporter claims as false representation on the FactCheck image.

To quote his lies; “Now a real expert, or even just a person of reasonable common sense, would chalk this up to factors like how the photo isn’t in focus, making it difficult to see a pressure seal, or how it might be obscured somewhat by the shadow. Here, for instance, is how one portion of this JPEG looks, without any modification”

The is attempting to take a portion, at the furthest point of the image and state that, ‘that area represents the entire image’. Here is another image of the FactCheck forged document.

Here is the comparison in relation to his section.

An Obot lawyer, who is too stupid and arrogant to realize that the image above, has been resized, by this blog hosting. Has decided to post a comparison image. The image below demonstrates that the FactCheck people used to verify the COLB were not only inexperienced, but were deceptive as well. They were not qualified to even photograph the document and took every effort to decieve anyone looking at it, just like the questionalbe lawyer. Regardless of the level of focus that the deranged lawyer is pawning, there are no defects from the embossing that are visible in other images. Since he can’t explain that away, he’s throwing a temper tantrum.

UPDATE 12/24/2009 As I have posted a new post today I am inserting the origional image that was to go here. Here is the one that I changed from to keep the Obot’s off-guard. The original was to have stated ‘Some degree of being in focus’ and an cropped section showing that even the date was visible.

Now even with the image above, there is no indication of anything in the area where there should be.

Now here is where is mis-representing the facts. He is openly pawning the DailyKos image as proof that there is a seal and that makes it legit. Now to destroy all myths about the Obama COLB being a legitimate State issued Certification of Live Birth.

Here is an inverted image of the DailyKos COLB. There are defects that indicate in the area [region] of where a seal should be that there are something a miss. He attempted to use ‘Edge Detection’ as a means of bringing out the edges of the breakage from the embossing. I will his own image and prove him wrong. Here is the image that he has posted ‘claiming that a seal is present.’ Note the indications of a supposed seal and date stamp with the first four images above, they are identical.

The original sixe of the DailyKos image was 2427 x 2369 – 16 million colors, over 17 megs in size.

The silver stake in the forgery that we are gong to expose is that the ‘Date Stamp’ is actually a layer superimposed on the image and is not actuall a stamp as indicated by the State of Hawaii.

Here is a crop of the image posted on the debuker’s web-site.

Notice the lines under the date stamp [here the date is reversed, as the stamp is supposed to be applied to the back of the document.] There is no indication that any of the lines under the date stamp have been altered by the application of the stamp. Now let’s look the same area on the Hawaiian Blank template. Also note that where there is supposed to be an ‘embossed seal’ shows the same anomolies as in the Blank Hawaiian Template also.

Lets invert the DailyKos crop again and see the entire crop area.

Now for a close-up of just the ‘Date Stamp’ area

Now compare the above to the Obama COLB Date Stamp region [below] and see if you can see any line breakage from a stamp being applied to the document. Notice the ‘bleed-through’ of the date stamp being aver-layed on top of the image versus being applied to the back.

The Date Stamp was applied as a layer to the Blank Hawaiian Template and they used that image to create the Barack Obama DailyKos COLB, that image was used again on Fight the Smears ‘FTS’ website.

As even State of Hawaii’s Department of Health, Director of Communications Janice Okubo, stated “I don’t know that it’s possible for us to even say beyond a doubt what the image on the site represents.”

The same anomolies and marking across the ‘Blank Hawaiian Template’, The DailyKos image, indicating that the same image was used to create them. That the indications that they claim are an embossed seal and date stamp are nothing more then a layer applied to the image to make it appear that it was real.

There has been no proof that the signiture that FactCheck posted was even on the Obama COLB. Bottom line, the Blank Hawaiian template was used to create the DailyKos image and that it was never issued by the State of Hawaii. The FactCheck forgery used a non-State of Hawaii SEAL as indicated by the following e-mail.

http://www.capitol.hawaii.gov/hrscurrent/Vol01_Ch0001-0042F/HRS0011/HRS_0011-0113.htm

“(e) If the applicant, or any other party, individual, or group with a candidate on the presidential ballot, objects to the finding of eligibility or disqualification the person may, not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the finding, file a request in writing with the chief election officer for a hearing on the question. A hearing shall be called not later than 4:30 p.m. on the tenth day after the receipt of the request and shall be conducted in accord with chapter 91. A decision shall be issued not later than 4:30 p.m. on the fifth day after the conclusion of the hearing.”

You keep repeating flawed talking points. No AG or DA can get do what you claim by themselves. They have to get a court to go along with them. Your idea about Patrick Fitzgerald is good, but you’re misrepresenting history. Libby was a consolation prize because he couldn’t convict anyone of outing Valerie Plame.

You might want to learn a bit about the Grand Jury system. The role of a Grand Jury is to determine probable cause. Here’s a brief “FAQ” from the American Bar Association:
http://www.abanet.org/media/faqjury.html

Grand Juries can hear evidence on any issue that any prosecuting attorney might bring before them.

I guess from your statements above you don’t think that there is enough evidence of any criminal act having been committed concerning Barack Obama’s eligibility to be president or in his assumption of the office of president for any prosecuting attorney to bring those issues before a Grand Jury for further investigation to see if there is probable cause to issue an indictment.

I’m certain that if we were to ask Patrick Fitzgerald whether he was satisfied with the outcome of the Libby trial, he would give us an unequivocal “yes.” The job of a prosecutor is to secure a conviction and that he did.

Something else about Hawaii law that we didn’t know in 2008. It allows candidates to challenge each other through the chief elections officer on findings of eligibility to be on the ballot. If Obama decides to run in 2012, he better hope Alan Keyes isn’t running too. Once a hearing is granted under the law, then Keyes would qualify under Hawaii statutes to get verification of Obama’s vital records.

Ambassador Keyes, as Constitution Party candidate for president tried three different times to get such verifications in 2008. He sued in California twice “Keyes v Bowen” and “Barnett v Obama (which began as “Keyes v Obama et. al.”) and once in Hawaii “Keyes v Governor Lingle”. All three lawsuits were dismissed. The issue in all three was to force proof of Obama’s eligibility.

From “The Right Side of Life web site: “Another case that had been flying under the radar was Keyes v. Lingle, where the Constitution Party and Dr. Amb. Alan Keyes were petitioning against Hawaii Governor Linda Lingle, Chief Elections Officer Kevin B. Cronin, and various other Defendants as a means of holding an official accountable for determining Barack Hussein Obama’s eligibility. Documentation: Dismissed on December...”
http://www.therightsideoflife.com/category/2008-election/keyes-v-lingle/

What Obama would use if any court required him to submit proof of birth is his Hawaii Certification of Live Birth.

Here’s a link to a competing level 2 image analysis:
http://www.hackerfactor.com/blog/index.php?/archives/210-Bad-Science-How-Not-To-Do-Image-Analysis.html

In any event, all of the analyses of scanned internet images is moot since the state of Hawaii has already verified Barack Obama’s birth in that state over a year ago.

“I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawaii State Department of Health verifying Barack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago.”—July 27, 2009
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2009/09-063.pdf
http://hawaii.gov/health/about/pr/2008/08-93.pdf

Any court or congressional hearing is very likely to accept the statement from the Director of the Hawaii Department of Health, on the Governor of Hawaii’s letterhead as proper authentification. Scanned and/or photoshopped images posted on internet sites are NOT proper authentification.

You might want to learn a bit about the Grand Jury system.

Are you intentionally trying to support my point for me?? I said no AG or DA can get this case done by themselves. Now you're talking about working with a grand jury. What part of that is doing it by themselves?? The lack of logic in your post is staggering.

You evidently didn’t read the dismissal in Keyes v. Lingle. It references the law I was talking about in post #90:

“Any challenge to the Chief Election Officer’s finding of eligibility of a presidential candidate in the State of Hawai‘i must be pursued in accordance with HRS § 11-113(e), not sections 11-172 and 11-174.5.”

Are you intentionally trying to support my point for me?? I said no AG or DA can get this case done by themselves. Now you’re talking about working with a grand jury. What part of that is doing it by themselves?? The lack of logic in your post is staggering.

Come on now Edge. I think you should get yourself checked out for Alzheimers. I have been advocating on Free Republic for a prosecuting attorney to initiate a Grand Jury investigation and subpoena Obama’s original vital records for more than a year now. I probably have thirty posts alone calling for pressure to be brought to bear on Hawaii’s Republican Attorney General Mark L. Bennett to initiate such a Grand Jury investigation and subpoena Obama’s birth records.
I can certainly understand your attempt to cover for the fact that you were ignorant of what a grand jury is and how grand juries work, but your attempt was so lame, so pathetic.

Here’s one of my posts from just this past MONDAY TO YOU that is still on my pings list. Note my very first sentence:
YOU SAID:
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Does the Military care about the Constitution? OR IS IT ALL ABOUT RANK, PRESTIGE AND PROMOTION?
Monday, June 14, 2010 1:31:42 PM · 100 of 107
jamese777 to edge919
“Like the Lingle statement, this is an outright lie. The alleged COLB is a ‘Certification of Live Birth’ and it is NOT an original birth certificate, unless we are all to believe that Obama did not get an original birth certificate until June 2007. Second, the document factlack claims to have seen does not match the document scanned and sent to Politfact and Daily KOS. Either their document or both documents are products of forgery. The factlack certificate contains a number that the HI DOH refuses to affirm belongs to Obama ... in spite of having statutory authority to do so. IOW, they can’t say who it really belongs to without exposing Obama for fraud. Ouch.”

And I replied:
“If forgery was committed why has no prosecutor initiated a Grand Jury investigation of that crime?
If forgery was committed, why has no plaintiff sued Obama civilly for fraud?
If forgery was committed why has no member of the loyal opposition to Obama in Congress proposed a congressional investigation, even if only minority party members participate? Each party caucus CAN conduct its own investigations into pertinent issues that affect the American people.
And finally, the Certification of Live Birth IS the official birth certificate of the state of Hawaii and it is proof of birth good enough for the issuance of a US passport and it is accepted for all legal purposes and in any court of law. It is the only proof of birth that Barack Obama will EVER need to show to anyone.
At the bottom of every copy of a COLB issued by the state of Hawaii it says the following: “This copy serves as prima facie evidence of the fact of birth in any court proceeding.”

Do you have a point?? You haven’t really said anything. Congratulations for being abble to copy and paste earlier posts, but I repeat, the lack of logic in your post(s) is staggering.

Here, in case you NEED the Birth Certificate...

Do you have a point?? You haven’t really said anything. Congratulations for being abble to copy and paste earlier posts, but I repeat, the lack of logic in your post(s) is staggering.

Yes, I had a point but it would be lost on someone of your limited intelligence.

Sorry that you don’t have an appreciation for my logic but you can’t please all of the people all of the time.

I’m not surprised that someone who spells “able” as “abble” (sic) is “staggering.”