Election official: I’d testify Obama not born in Hawaii

American Grand Jury ^ | 6/14/2010 | Joe Kovacs

[raymcc]

The former Honolulu elections clerk who says President Obama was “definitely” not born in Hawaii and has no birth certificate from any hospital in the Aloha State says he’s willing to testify in court to those facts.

“The things I’ve said, I don’t mind testifying in court,” Tim Adams, the senior elections clerk for the city and county of Honolulu in the 2008 campaign, told WND in an exclusive interview.

[PA-RIVER]

Yes. A home birth is a bragging right in the 21st century. We would know.

The fact that he is allowing the court martial of Mr. Lakin to go forward is very telling. He either cant show a BC to stop it, or If he has a BC and is allowing this to go forward he is despicable and worthy of contempt from all Americans. Im betting he is a foreign born dirtbag.

[Windflier]

I don’t think your “dream” is a dream at all. The only real wealth this (or any other nation) has ever really had is in its people’s ability and willingness to produce said wealth, and we still have that in our national character (for the most part).

Everything you said about Obama’s Marxist agenda being dismantled, brick by brick, will come true after November, and in the subsequent two years leading up to the next presidential inauguration.

No, you’re not having a dream at all. You’re seeing the future.

[MissTickly]

“This should be easy to check.

There are two hospitals in question. They should all have logs or records of who was admitted and for what. There can’t have been more than a dozen births at each hospital over a two day period around Obama’s birth.

Match up all the admitted women in labor with actual births and birth certificates.

If the birthers are right then there should be (X) number of births and (X-1) number of admitted women in labor.

QED.”

Yes, why don’t you get right on this task....easy peasy.=)

[Polarik]

Tim Adams is a Fraud!

He is a mouthpiece of the Left, and all you need to do is read what he says to know it.

This is yet another ruse intended to steer us away from the real issue.

He said that he will testify in court that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

"I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

Duh! Of course he would say this in court knowing, full well, that it is HEARSAY EVIDENCE and would promptly be thrown out of court.

His other statements are also unsupported and basically, nonsequiturs:

"[Obama] does have a [Certification] of Live Birth, which is given to children of families who are residents of Hawaii when children are born outside the state. So, I assert that he was born outside of Hawaii. Now, we can't tell you where he was born. Some of his family members said that he had been born while his mother was on a trip overseas. "

First of all, Obama does not have a Certification of Live Birth, and that alone outs Adams as an Obamaton. Secondly, COLBs were given to everyone - not just to "children of resident families born outside of Hawaii." Thousands of children were home-birthed - including the children of immigrants (many illegally brought there) working the sugar and pineapple plantations of Hawaii, aka SLAVE LABOR.

BTW, how is it that the Preesident and his libtards never talk about the Chinese, Japanese, and Filipino slaves brought to Hawaii? You know, the people who were still slaves LONG AFTER the Emancipation Proclamation?

Or, do Obama and Holder think that "Coolie" was a term of endearment?

("For someone who says he was born in Hawaii, he sure does not act like one." - the only quote about Obama's birthplace made by Linda Lingle, Governor of Hawaii, prior to December 2008.)

Adams continues:

"When I mentioned this, it got people's attention. They also did not like my conclusions that since President Obama does have a [Certification] of Live Birth from the state of Hawaii, that he was born a U.S. citizen. "

So, let me get this straight: Adams says (a) Obama was not born in Hawaii, yet (b) because he has a COLB that says he was born in Hawaii, then (c) he was born a U.S. citizen?

What kind of convoluted logic is that? Answer: liberal logic. Adams has a lot of trouble putting two thoughts together and coming up with a coherent statement. Par for the course.

"And during the initial part of the campaign, when questions about his eligibility to be president came up – including Senator McCain because he was born in Panama – that both these men were vetted by the same process as any other presidential candidate."

McCain and Obama were NOT vetted like any other Presidential candidate in history. Obama was not even vetted like McCain: there was no Senate resolution passed for Obama like there was for McCain. Aside from the resolution not conferring natural-born stratus on McCain, it did prove that the consensus of opinion among all Senators was that a child born to two US citzens on a US Navel Base serving their country overseas SHOULD not be excluded from running for President.

Now, compare McCain's eligibility claim to Obama's.

If what Adams says is true, then Obama is a foreign-born President with a British citizen Father and a Mother unable to automatically pass along her US citizenship to him.

In other words, Obama was not a natural-born citizen or even a native-born citizen. Clearly, Adams is clueless about the Constitution and the laws regarding citizenship

Obama has provided NO proof of where he was born. Obama could have been born in Iran, Afghanistan, or North Korea, for all we know, yet the fact remains that he has continually refused to provide any concrete proof of his birth ANYWHERE.

It means, Mr. Adams, that Obama has not met the Article II requirements of the Constitution and may not be a citizen of any variety.

"So, while we may not agree, some people say that because of Article 2 of the Constitution, President Obama was not eligible to be president. That's not a question that we can answer."

Who's "We?" Sixty million people are "Some people?" Answering the question of "Who is Barack Obama?" is the most important question in history that we MUST answer. Otherwise, we will have a flood of Manchurian candidates seeking the presidency who were born in hostile countries with no allegiance to America.

"The people who are in charge of saying who is eligible to run for president have already vouched that he was indeed an eligible candidate. If we disagree with that, we don't need to go after the man. We need to look at the process by which candidates are vetted for public office."

Total baloney! We disagree with the fact that no vetting was done at all. There is a laundry list of bonafides that Obama has refused to disclose. No, Mr. Adams, we need to go after the man who lied about everything having to do with his biography, and who has also passed off forged government documents to hide keep it hidden.

"A facsimile of it [COLB] has been put online," said Adams.

Of course, he would say this bald-faced lie.

"In my professional opinion, he definitely was not born in Hawaii. I can say without a shadow of a doubt that he was not born in Hawaii because there is no legal record of him being born there. If someone called and asked about it, I could not tell them that person was born in the state."

What "professional opinion?" The only "profession" he is in is being a student. He has no proof to back up what he claims, and he is so not an expert on birth certificates or any other vital records that Obama has.

The question that should have been put to him was, "Do you know what is contained in Obama's birth record?"

His answer would have been, "What is on the Certification of Live Birth."

We are not amused.

[butterdezillion]

RexBeach, the Hawaii DOH has indirectly confirmed, in 2 different ways through official communications, that the Factcheck COLB is a forgery. The best they have for him is an amended (and probably also late) BC - which doesn’t qualify as prima facie evidence, which should mean that his EVVE record has a void flag on it, showing that he is undocumented. Any traffic cop who did a check on his status would be able to see this immediately.

That’s probably why Obama’s apparatus (apparently) set up the system so that if a cop checked he wouldn’t get the information and he WOULD get reported as trying to access information he’s not supposed to get. They did the reverse operation for the passport files - they set the system up to IGNORE the 3 instances of unlawful access to Obama’s passport. Just enough times to be able to change out the records to what they wish had been in there originally.

But it also means that there is no way in heck that Nancy Pelosi did even the most rudimentary check of Obama’s eligibility. She absolutely perjured herself when she signed the Hawaii certificate of nomination saying that Obama is Constitutionally eligible to be POTUS.

On my blog at http://butterdezillion.wordpress.com/2010/01/11/red-flags-in-hawaii-2/ I document some of the laws that have been broken in order to cover the fact that Obama is not eligible to be POTUS.

What people need to realize is that government, media, and law enforcement at all levels either winked at laws broken or actually participated in breaking the laws. This issue is actually about whether we have the rule of law in this country. All the lawlessness that we’ve seen since Obama took over this nation (and I use those words deliberately) was only possible because people let him and his thugs in positions of power break laws in order to get him elected.

[Cboldt]

-- If the birthers are right then there should be (X) number of births and (X-1) number of admitted women in labor. --

Not accounting for multiple births, see, for example, the Nordyke twins.

[LucyT]

Tim Adams is a Fraud!

He is a mouthpiece of the Left, and all you need to do is read what he says to know it.

This is yet another ruse intended to steer us away from the real issue.

He said that he will testify in court that Obama was not born in Hawaii. "I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

Duh! Of course he would say this in court knowing, full well, that it is HEARSAY EVIDENCE and would promptly be thrown out of court.

His other statements are also unsupported and basically, nonsequiturs:

More at Post # 44.

[Thanks, Polarik.]

[Red Steel]

He is a mixed up and confused liberal. I like to see what he knows and does not know where he should write a detailed affidavit, then it can be determined if everything he knows is hearsay or not.

Hearsay evidence is not always worthless.

Grand Jury - Hearsay Evidence Admissible?

[Las Vegas Ron]

"I was told at the time there is no long-form birth record, which would have been the case if President Obama was born in [a] hospital in Honolulu."

IIRC, in his initial statement, he said his superiors told him this as well as it was common knowledge amongst all involved...has anyone asked him to come up with some names?

Maybe someone would be brave enough to corroborate his statements?

Just askin, maybe this has been addressed but if it has I missed it.

[danamco]

Lt. Harris???

[danamco]

Well he is dead, but you might ask Larry???

[danamco]

And the guy who has it was booted!!!

[danamco]

Well said!!!

[danamco]

I e-mailed the guy when first on YouTube, no answer yet!!!

[Polarik]

In his case, his hearsay testimony IS worthless because he is claiming that he “...was informed by my boss (unnamed) that we did not have a birth record [for Obama] (unverified).”

Then, he conveniently says that people in the elections office fear for their jobs and will not corroborate his claims.

Neither Adams nor his “boss” had direct access to the birth records on the DOH mainframe. Adams is trying to give the impression that he had access to them.

Elections officials did not check birth certificates to verify voters - they used drivers’ licenses, rental leases, and property records.

He’s a dead-end.

[rolling_stone]

I am not so quick to condemn the guy. It may be he got a lot of heat after his first interview and someone explained misprision of a felony and asked him why he didn't report it sooner if he knew Obie was not born in Hawaii..his convoluted not born there but still a US citizen gives him an out for not reporting it...

True what he says is hearsay that his bosses called the hospitals, but it does give rise to suspicion sufficient with everything else to start an investigation and ask his bosses and ask the hospitals. Will that be done? Who knows maybe the amount of evidence slowly snowballing along with Obies falling popularity may cause some honest govt official to investigate before the damn breaks. This may just be enough reason for the Hawaii AG along with DOH lies to decide he better investigate or go down in history as one who allowed this to continue.

What can Hawaii say about Adams comments? Deny it? Where is the press asking the Governor about this and her Kapiolani hospital misstatement? They are absent but sooner or later the questions will be asked just like the one Gibbs ignored about Obies Connecticut issued Social Security Card. That question needs to be re asked until answered and not allowed to be avoided again.

It's time to pressure those in positions to get to the bottom of this. While Adams may not have enough info to open everything up, it is another crack in the open secret of the century. Each little bit helps bust the damn holding this thing back. I would not be condemning those who step forward with whatever they know, we need their help. Publicity is good and I see no harm done by this fellow.

[rxsid]

While I agree that Adams is most probably a "dead end", didn't he say in one of the interviews that he (and/or his "boss") called both hospitals in Honolulu, and neither would confirm the existence of birth record(s)/information for Barry?
I don't recall him stating that he had (direct) access to birth certificate records...but rather, access to SSN, IRS and other such "databases."

[Polarik]

Adams made a lot of unsubstantiated claims. Remember that WND contacted both hospitals awhile ago and neither would confirm or deny that Bambi was born there.

So, what Adams claims about them is old news.

Except, that his is total bullsh*t. It would be a HIPAA violation for the hopsitals to disclose this information to him.

What was he doing calling the hospitals, anyway?

There is nothing of substance he has to offer, other than his “professional opinion” as an English teacher that Obama was not born in Hawaii.

He claimed that Obama “has no birth record.”

The ONLY way he could know that is to directly access the birth record database.

Obama DOES have a birth record.

TWO as a matter of fact.

[Polarik]

Adams claims there is no hospital long-form birth certificate for OBama, but to flat-out claim that this proves he was not born in Hawaii is ludicrous. He may not have the first type of BC, but there are three other types of BC’s he could have gotten, such as the Delayed Certificate of Birth, a Certificate of Hawaiian Birth, and an unattended Certificate of Live Birth.

Two of these only required a statement from the parent or grandparent, or even from a witness to the birth, to be submitted with the application. Stanley Ann did not even need to be present.

See this WND article:

http://www.wnd.com/?pageId=105371