The One-Hour Meltdown

How to Survive Hard Times ^ | July 22, 2009 | Robert Wayne Atkins, P.E.

[GOPJ]

RV purification systems are about the cheapest...

[goat granny]

I challenge you to find me, who am I, where do I live, etc etc. In reading my posts much could be gained about me, but I doubt if anyone (except the government) could get the information needed....but what if I was lying, maybe I am a compulsive liar. No sons and no gold.. :O)

I understand what you are saying about giving out too much information on oneself. And you are probably right, much easier access to precious metals can be had by easier means than trying to find one person out of hundreds of thousands...try a local jewelry store. Not all of them have state of the art protection..

I am not being snarky, it is an interesting plot to think about....but anyone smart enought to do it better not forget about owning guns and being a good shot. Perhaps guard dogs, by finding out about me, would that insure you would find out about any family members...

You have put a little bug in my imagination...:O)

[goat granny]

You are a genius, I would never have thought of a bidet.

On the one we use to have, it came with plastic bags that attached to the toilet seat and then it was the kids job to bury the bags. Bags were used only for #2.

I prefer toilet paper, but in the days of outhouses, they also used the Sears Roebuck catalog....As a child I used outhouses, don't recommend anyone build one...P U .

When using the portable, just make sure your set on level ground.

[goat granny]

I thought there just might be some kind of chemical (or pill) one could use to purify water...I am not too smart on that kind of stuff. I gather that there is nothing simple to use....An RV system seems like it would be kind of complicated for me....(being of a ripe old age and anything beyond (simple) wouldn’t be a good choice for me..<P.

I am so far over the hill, I cannot ever see the rise anymore... but thank you for the information...

[RegulatorCountry]

Just plain old chlorine bleach will do in a pinch, goat granny. Make sure it's the usual household 5.25% chlorine and unscented. There are plenty of online resources for the percentage.

[potlatch]

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[goat granny]

T Y. bleach is something simple I could use...Kool Aid is also something to flavor purified water with...

[wku man]

I like my meltdowns on grilled rye, with pepperjack and lots of sauteed onions. Side of fries, slaw, big dill pickle, cold Sam Adams...mmmmmm, I'll take that meltdown any day.

Of course, after the real meltdown, I may never see one of those again.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

[Joya]

Here’s a link I heard about just today,

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http://www.thereadystore.com/

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here’s one I have known about for a while,

http://www.standeyo.com/

[Kartographer]

Methods of chlorine treatment:
Bleach: Ordinary household bleach (such as Clorox) in the US contains 5.25% sodium
hypochlorite (NaOCL) and can be used to purify water if it contains no other active ingredients,
scents, or colorings. Bleach is far from an ideal source due to its bulkiness (only 5% active
ingredient), and the instability over time of the chlorine content in bleach. Chlorine loss is farther
increased by agitation or exposure to air. One source claims chlorine loss from a 5% solution at
10% over 6 months if stored at 70° F. Nevertheless, this may be the only chemical means
available to purify water, and it is far better than nothing. Normal dosage is 8 drops (0.4 ml) per
gallon. Allow the treated water to sit for 30 min., and if there isn’t a slight chlorine smell, retreat.
Note: USP standard medicine droppers are designed to dispense 0.045-0.055 ml per drop. Use of
other solvents or some chemicals can change this. The dropper can be calibrated against a
graduated cylinder for greater accuracy.
Some small treatment plants in Africa produce their own sodium hypochlorite on site from the
electrolysis of brine. Power demands range from 1.7 to 4 kWh per lb. of NaOCL. 2 to 3.5 lbs. of
salt are needed for each pound of NaOCL. These units are fairly simple and are made in both the
US and the UK. Another system, designed for China, where the suitable raw materials were
mined or manufactured locally, used a reaction between salt, manganese dioxide, and sulfuric
acid to produce chlorine gas. The gas was then allowed to react with slaked lime to produce a
bleaching powder that could then be used to treat water. A heat source is required
to speed the reaction up.
AquaCure: Designed for the South African military, these tablets contain chlorine and alum.
The alum causes the suspended solids to flocculate and the chlorine adds 8 PPM chlorine. This is
a great way to treat turbid water, though it will leave a lot of chlorine in clear water (The one
tablet/liter could be halved for clear water.)
The US distributor for Aqua Cure is:
Safesport Manufacturing, Box 11811, Denver, CO 80211 1 800 433 6506
Bleaching Powder (Chlorinated Lime): Can also be purchased and used as a purification means
if nothing else is available. Bleaching powder is 33-37% chlorine when produced, but losses its
chlorine rapidly, particularly when exposed to air, light or moisture.
Calcium Hypochlorite: Also known as High Test Hypochlorite (HTH). Supplied in crystal
form, it is nearly 70% available chlorine. One product, the Sanitizer (formally the Sierra Water
Purifier) uses these crystals to superchlorinate the water to insure pathogens were killed off, then
hydrogen peroxide is added to drive off the residual chlorine. This is the most effective method
of field chlorine treatment. The US military and most aid agencies also use HTH to treat their
water, though a test kit, rather than superchlorination, is used to insure enough chlorine is added.
This is preferable for largescale systems as the residual chlorine will prevent recontamination.

Usually bulk water treatment plants first dilute to HTH to make a 1% working solution at the rate
of 14g HTH per liter of water. While testing to determine exact chlorine needs are preferable, the
solution can be used at the dose rate of 8 drops/gallon, or for larger quantities, 1 part of 1%
solution to 10,000 parts clear water. Either of these doses will result in 1 PPM

From my Preparedness Manual downloadable at:

http://www.mediafire.com/?zghuhkgoqz4

[goat granny]

I moved out of the suburbs in 1985 to a farm...the water was hard and the smell was not that great, but got use to it...then I moved to a small town that used Detroit city water...To me, being used to hard water, the city water had a strong smell of chlorine. It reminded me of our swimming pool water from the burbs....I have made another move and have a water softener, it still has an odor but not like the farm with no water softener. I did find out if you fill a gallon with well water and refrigerate it, the smell is gone (the water breathes) and the water taste great.

I decided I didn't like drinking swimming pool water...and like you say, the water had to be tested and the chlorine was dissipated quickly.

But in emergency situations, chlorine would not be bad to add for safety...T Y for the info...

[Windflier]

Thanks for posting the links. Can’t hurt to have lots of sources for this type of information.

[texgal]

I am glad hurricanes are something I don't have to worry about, just tornado's.

Guess my thoughts about it are that with tornadoes you have very little warning and not much time to prepare or get out of the way. With a hurricane, we can usually track them over several days if not weeks, usually have a pretty good idea of where and when they will hit with some time to get the heck out of Dodge when it is coming our way.

[2ndDivisionVet]

BTTT

[DBrow]

Good article. I think that it will take longer than an hour to go down, but not more than 48.

Some information won’t flow down quickly or efficiently, and not everything will be orchestrated. Banks maybe, but retail will be much more chaotic.

[bert]

———I think this is deliberate.-——

The devaluation is deliberate.

The goal is to accomplish the devaluation and resultant increase in prices and then wages and then taxes with control. The rate will be such that the pressure will be relieved before economic vessel explodes.

[Marcella]

ping

[Windflier]

Thanks for the bump, bud. This is definitely one article that’s worth everyone’s attention.

[Windflier]

Thank you for the bump, Marcella. You must have found this thread while doing a topic search. It’s pretty old now.

Still, it’s a very relevant article. I just pasted the link into my Facebook page to share it with more folks.

Thanks.

[MHGinTN]

The process of collapse will take a bit longer to materialize into anarchy than the writer states. It will however be really bad in the large cities, then 'matriculate' to the suburbs and eventually, if not halted by massive intervention, ooze to the countrysides and rural enclaves. The 'Jericho' state of survival is a writer's fantasy. The highways will become looter's alley.

I believe the world economic crisis is an artificially devised way for the most powerful banking powers to seize world control. As such they will have a banking system ready for implimentation when the crisis becomes bad enough to have all major governments begging for a unification to solve the mayhem and anarchy. ... If one reads Daniel, and Revelations, the data is forecaste to ponder. It is coming sooner rather than later. We are in the end times.