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Thanks in advance for your input, and please ping anyone you know who has one of these.
1 posted on 06/04/2010 11:41:59 AM PDT by humblegunner
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Rifle Ping.


2 posted on 06/04/2010 11:42:22 AM PDT by humblegunner (Pablo is very wily)
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Foreign military cartridges are not stamped with the caliber. The information on the rim is usually the date of manufacture and the factory number. That is the correct ammo for your gun.
3 posted on 06/04/2010 11:44:55 AM PDT by ozzymandus
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I think you’re good to go, that looks like 7.62x52R to me, and the bullet isn’t supposed to fit into the barrel all the way, the extra diameter allows it to engage the rifling.

If you’re worried, tie the rifle to a tire, and set it off with a string. Inspect the case, bolt and breech for pressure signs.


5 posted on 06/04/2010 11:45:20 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Im now curious to see what on my 7.62 x 54R cartridges when I get home.


6 posted on 06/04/2010 11:45:52 AM PDT by ßuddaßudd (7 days - 7 ways Guero >>> with a floating, shifting, ever changing persona.....)
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although I haven’t examined the rifle it looks like you’re good to go in shooting it. The Moisin Nagants had a very robust action that was one of the first designed to shoot smokeless cartridges.

If you’re really concerned take the rifle to a compitent gun smith to look over and maybe proof test.


7 posted on 06/04/2010 11:45:59 AM PDT by Dayman
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Do you have a a competent local gunsmith? The rifle should be checked out by one before firing anyway and they’ll be able to tell you whether you have the correct ammo or not.


10 posted on 06/04/2010 11:46:24 AM PDT by snuffy smiff (imagine if the GOP grew a brain-and threw all RINOs OUT! But that would also require a spine *sigh*)
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Check the headspace on it before you fire regardless of the ammunition. I borrowed a headspace gauge for free from one of the Mosin clubs on the web.


11 posted on 06/04/2010 11:47:48 AM PDT by steve86 (Acerbic by nature, not nurture)
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That looks like the exact same round I fire from my Mosin-Nagant M-44.

Mine is surprisingly accurate for such a cheaply made weapon ($88 at a gun show in Dale City a few years ago)..


13 posted on 06/04/2010 11:48:17 AM PDT by WayneS (George Orwell's "1984" was supposed to be a Warning, NOT an Instruction Manual.)
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Mosin nagant VS AK-47 Vs AR-15:

http://www.mouseguns.com/compare.htm


14 posted on 06/04/2010 11:48:29 AM PDT by Fido969 ("The hardest thing in the world to understand is income tax." - Albert Einstein)
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Ammo produced in military arsenals rarely has a caliber
stamped on the case. The original packaging should say,
although those look like 7.62x54R to me.


15 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:02 AM PDT by rahbert (Our enemy has yet to reveal himself...)
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Who cares? It’s a Mosin!

You could shove a proesthetic limb in there and fire it off without any problems. That’s the whole point!!


16 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:03 AM PDT by The Toll
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If you can chamber the bullet it will work.
The bullets look like military manufactured rounds because of the red seal around the primer.
That bullet is bigger than the 30-06 which is smaller than the dealer bullet you have.


17 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:14 AM PDT by lucky american (If you think the Libs care about your health.....LOLOLOL)
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Rarely are military cartridges stamped with the caliber.

A quick internet search should satisfy your concerns.

Since they seem to chamber well, and the bullet seems to fit the barrel, I’d just take the thing out and fire it. If you wanted to be careful, you could always brace it with sand bags, use a small rope, and pull from a distance.


18 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:27 AM PDT by KoRn (Department of Homeland Security, Certified - "Right Wing Extremist" - I Hate Mexico)
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Oh, the ammo is right, it’s just the wrong gun.
I’ll take that misfit M/N M44 off your hands.
(Those things used to be all over the C&R catalogs, now can’t find any. Knew I’d kick myself.)


19 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:27 AM PDT by ctdonath2 (+)
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Hungary, 21/87, Steel core light ball,147 grain, 1987

Its fine to shoot.


21 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:43 AM PDT by mylife (Opinions: $1 Halfbaked: 50c)
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Just checked my latest stash. No head stamps save for “10” on one side and “55” on the other. Mine have brass cases. Looked at some of my earlier ones also. None marked. I’ve been shooting these for years, most in paper wrappers from gun shows. You can buy commercial (non-milsurp) ammo that is probably marked.

If you’re really concerned, put you rifle in a vise and hook a string to the trigger and light it off.

I suspect you’ll have no problems.


22 posted on 06/04/2010 11:49:57 AM PDT by umgud (Obama is a failed experiment.)
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Ammo’s fine, and probably mildly corrosive. Headspacing may be a concern.


24 posted on 06/04/2010 11:51:08 AM PDT by gundog (Outrage is anger taken by surprise. Nothing these people do surprises me anymore.)
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I've never seen 7.62x54R head stamped with the caliber on Combloc military surplus ammunition, but the steel case ammo that you show in the photos is indeed 7.62x54R ammunition.

The 7.62x54R projectile diameter is actually 7.92mm (0.312 in), which is why your 7.62x63 (Winchester .30-06) projectile with a diameter of 7.82 mm (0.308 in) will muzzle check the way you show in your comparison picture.

Also, if you find that the rifle prints groups to the left or right of the target center, extend the bayonet. These rifles were factory zeroed at the front sight post with the bayonet extended if they did it at all.

25 posted on 06/04/2010 11:51:17 AM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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Looks like the right ammo to me. The fit you show is normal...I can take a picture of my Mosin the same way if you’d like.

21/87 is Hungarian ammo. It’ll work fine. It is Milsurp so it’s corrosive. I use a bottle of Windex to hose down the bore to neutralize the salts after I’m done shooting. I clean it up like normal when I go home.


26 posted on 06/04/2010 11:51:42 AM PDT by Malsua
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Military ammo doesn't usually have the calibre stamped into the case, only an arsenal code and a date code.

If you're in doubt of the bullet diameter the only accurate way to measure is to pull a bullet and use a micrometer. A 30/06 bullet is .308 in diameter but some European and Asian .30 calibre guns use .311 dia bullets, the British .303 and the Japanese Arisaka for example

28 posted on 06/04/2010 11:51:57 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, A Matter Of Fact, Not A Matter Of Opinion)
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