Posted on 06/04/2010 6:56:32 AM PDT by Colofornian
The law firm was Screwem, Billum, and Often
Wrong know it all you can be born into the Church and even baptized yet never really be converted!
Just like you were baptized but you never had a conversion
A conversion is receiving a witness by the power of the Holy Ghost!
That is what call having a testamony.
Those who murmur like Laman and Lemuel because they have to some volunteer work are not converted they are members of a family only.
Volunteering or honor a calling should be out of love not a world point of view how one is being put upon!
some people join the Church to please others not to honor God.
Irrespective of her religious practices, if she (it) should be found guilty in court, I suspect her (its) religious teachings were the furthest thing from her (its) mind.
For example; Timothy McVeigh was not a Christian in any sense of the term. Likewise, Christians obviously should be held responsible for the actions of crazy people like Timothy McVeigh
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Church is an opportunity for the lost (sinner) if they choose to wax strong and heal!
Point of drawing attention?
#1 Her income seemed awfully sufficient as it was.
#2 The Wasatch Mtn region (Utah into Idaho) has for years been one of the regional leaders in the nation in White-collar crime. Fraud. Embezzlement. Many victims have been Mormons. Perpetrated by fellow Mormons.
Examples:
* 2009-2010 Fraud track record [See post #45]
* Preying on the faithful: Though Mormons often victims, LDS Church skips fraud-prevention event
From above link - May 2, 2010 Salt Lake Tribune article: Worst in the country » Fraud is a long-standing problem
[in Utah], stretching back decades as it ebbs and flows, coming back each time with a vengeance, said James Malpede, who Leads the FBI's white-collar crime unit in the state. Utah has lost its ranking as the top state per capita in fraud but it remains a huge problem. "I'd say per capita it is one of the worst in the country," said Malpede. How bad? The agency is mostly limiting itself to investigating cases in Utah involving $20 million or more. "Most of what we're working on is $25 million and up, and a lot of what we're working on is $100 to $150 million and more," said Malpede. Attorney Baker said he came up with an estimate of the amount of money Utahns lost to big fraud schemes in 2009 based on cases in which charges have been filed and those he knows of where no actions have yet been brought. "I did a rough calculation of Ponzi schemes I saw over the last year that came through Utah and I would say it was at least $750 million."
Resty, I love you.
Nobody can justify themselves. (I believe in justification by faith in the ONLY Son of God, who lived and died for me and my sin)
2 Nephi 25:23, on the other hand, from the BoM, says people only get "grace" from God as a sort rocket jumpstart "AFTER ALL they can do." (Have you done ALL you can do?)
It would seem to me, that if you answer "yes" to that, then you're trying to justify yourself based upon all what could do and have done.
Hey did Cheetum sell his partnership ???
Laman and Lemuel
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Who ???
The law firm obviously hates competition.
A Mormon involved in fraud? That’s a first. /sarcasm
This TWIT is 31?
Her page looks and sounds TWEENish!
I guess it beats being a DAMNED Presbyterian!
"It could HAPPEN!"
Canwe bought him out after Howe died.
"Just like you were baptized but you never had a conversion"
You know this how? Can you tell what was in my heart for all those years or are you basing your false premise on the fact that since I left the LdS, I disagree with you in regards to mormonism?
You know this how?
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Because some of the things you say your actions reveals a lot!
It makes me wonder if you ever had a testimony about the Lord’s Church you would still love standards works.
The Lord’s Church is perfect people are not perfect!
Dealing with people isn’t always easy be it leaders or members or be it in the Church or out of the Church.
We are in a way like each other only at different levels of maturity.
Thank God the Lord does not judge us like we judge each others.
The false premises is the one we set up those around us
with our ideals and should they stumble they become mud.
Yet the Lord understands it takes many efforts before one arrives and then there is the next hurdle to overcome life in one eternal progression.
It is like practicing scales it takes many tries before it become a natural part of one like breathing.
So why do so many wait for one to stumble only to post it on the internet to show the world...
See there they are like Pharisees bla bla bla.
How short sighted not to know or understand anothers journey.
The counsel of man seems to crush to the point some feel despair now the counsel of the Lord is too look for something good and build on that!
Forgiveness can never happen if one is always holding their feet to the pass!
The problem with your premise Resty is that I don't blindly follow that which I'm told.
Trust but verify.
My search told me that my trust in the LdS church was misplaced.
It doesn't mean that I never had a testimony.
Than you were misleading when you infer you had a testimony
and I knew you did not have a testimony by the power of the Holy Ghost!
When one receives joy and comfort from the Holy Ghost they no longer retain hostility in their soul!
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Explain this who is doing the telling to do?
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