Steve Jobs Says iPad Revolution Means ‘Freedom from Porn’

LifeSiteNews.com ^ | Tuesday May 18, 2010 | Peter J. Smith

[It's me]

CUPERTINO, California, May 18, 2010 (LifeSiteNews.com) – Steve Jobs, CEO of Apple Computers, says his company will not be a party to the pornography industry and hopes that the iPad and iPhone revolution will help lead to a porn-free world.

Jobs reiterated his position in a heated e-mail exchange with Ryan Tate, a writer for Gawker.com, which follows news and gossip in Silicon Valley and elsewhere. Tate, who admitted that he was home alone and slightly inebriated at the time, took issue with a television ad calling the iPad a “revolution” and fired off an e-mail to Jobs.

“If Dylan [American songwriter Bob Dylan is one of Jobs’ favorite musicians] was 20 today, how would he feel about your company? Would he think the iPad had the faintest thing to do with ‘revolution?’ Revolutions are about freedom,” Tate wrote, not expecting a response from Jobs.

However, Jobs did respond to Tate, triggering an e-mail duel. “Yep, freedom from programs that steal your private data. Freedom from programs that trash your battery. Freedom from porn. Yep, freedom,” responded Jobs. “The times they are a changin’, and some traditional PC folks feel like their world is slipping away. It is.”

However, Tate accused Jobs of "imposing" his "morality" by having Apple forbid pornographic applications for iPad. “I don’t want ‘freedom from porn.’ Porn is just fine! And I think my wife would agree,” fired back Tate - who later said he regretted mentioning his wife.

Jobs shot back, “You might care more about porn when you have kids.”

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[SoConPubbie]

You clearly do not understand Christianity. Again, I am unsurprised by just how uninformed your posts are. But the fact you keep making them is the only surprise left.

So, when a man chooses to stop a rapist, not because he is a Christian, but because he knows that action is evil and hurtful, is that man doing the right thing?

If a man chooses not to cheat on his wife, because he loves and respects his wife, when he is not a Christian, is that man doing the right thing?

If a man prevents another man from murdering someone he doesn't know and he is not a Christian, is that man doing the right thing?

[Greysard]

I would guess that it has become a “in thing” to own an Apple device but eventually that will fade with age... That is why I see Apple as a younger age thing and a temporary advance into the market.

Apple is The Sharper Image of computers. They sell shiny stuff that is easy to operate. It doesn't mean that the product does much or is cheap or reliable or versatile or it comes with on-site service. It's mostly shiny. Apple took all the sharp tools from users of i{Phone,Pod,Pad} and made sure they can't get them. So if someone wants to take up residence in an "assisted living" house of computers and walk in a straitjacket, more power to them.

I believe Apple will lose their market if the country tightens its belt further. Already Apple has to limit itself to people with disposable income, people who can afford to buy a $500 gadget that they don't really need, people who then will be nickel-and-dimed for primitive software that often doesn't do anything useful. iPad doesn't even have a filesystem, and conversions from Apple's own wordprocessor are lossy. In contrast, there is plenty of absolutely free software for Windows and Linux, and often that software is excellent. Try Paint.Net, GIMP, GnuPG, Dia, OpenOffice, Firefox and many other programs - they are free and they are very functional. But happy owners of iPads, after they go through the honeymoon, will discover that iPad software is not free.

Apple makes luxury products, just like Toyota makes some luxury cars. Lexus doesn't do anything much differently than Corolla; there are just improvements, accessories and overall polish. But if you need to get from A to B then any car will do. Apple's market is the market of luxury computers - not just functional computers, but computers that are more of status symbol than a processor of machine instructions. Versatility is sacrificed for simplicity; less is more. Apple will be OK as long as there are people with cash to burn and with desire to own fashionable stuff. But if you need performance, versatility or low cost, look elsewhere. Carpenters don't walk around with golden hammers. I have several computers and I made some myself, I have a board next to me that I'm writing firmware for. For me Apple boxes offer no value whatsoever.

[SoConPubbie]

Exactly. However. If a manufacturer starts dictating morals to me I will go elsewhere...

I take it you don't shop in many Bible Book stores, right?

[Niteflyr]

This is Steve Jobs we are talking about. He's probably not graced the inside of a church for decades.

(Hebrews 10:25) "not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near". Very common for some to twist this scripture to say yes it's a sin not to go to church. I can fellowship with Christians without going to church. Church is a man made institution. I'm not saying it's unprofitable BUT is is NOT a sin to not go ...

[SoConPubbie]

Shifting your car in Reverse when you are speeding along in Drive usually just throws the transmission.

And that post made about as much sense as your other posts.

[Niteflyr]

Does that mean you don't shop at Walgreens?

No I don't actually..:o)

[freedumb2003]

>>No, I did not.<<

Sure you did — when you decided someone else (jobs, you, whomever) can choose what another sees, you tossed your lot in with the fascists.

>>I choose a freedom from Sin provided by Christ and his sacrifice on Calvary.<<

Nice. Irrelevant to the discussion at hand.

>>As a result of that freedom he has provided me, I’ll fight against the sin of Pornography or any other where I can.<<

So, you don’t believe in freedom to choose and discern. You diminish Christ’s trust in all of us when you put your opinion in front of the ability of each to decide.

>>I won’t pretend, such as yourself, that there is no generally universally accepted definition of Porn.<<

Well, there isn’t. Except in your small mind.

>>Yoke yourself if you wish.

I gladly take up the Yoke of Christ daily. <<

As do I. The difference is I do it with the understanding that my fellow man/woman is a person of dignity imbued by our God with the ability to discern and see and deal with sin.

It is only fascist egomaniacs like you who believe they must foist their personal moral beliefs over others and make them hew to your beliefs that leave the light of Christ and enter the darkness of Ego.

I do not support porn — but I believe adults can identify and eschew it when they follow Christ’s teachings.

Too bad you have such a poor opinion of people. Not surprising, but sad.

[Niteflyr]

I take it you don't shop in many Bible Book stores, right?

Spent many years studying Christian theology among other fundamentalist religions actually...

[Deagle]

Absolutely very well said! Yes, it is a younger generation luxury item. Too bad that most Apple users won’t figure that out until it’s too late.

[SoConPubbie]

(Hebrews 10:25) "not forsaking the gathering of ourselves together, as some have the custom, but encouraging one another, and all the more so as YOU behold the day drawing near". Very common for some to twist this scripture to say yes it's a sin not to go to church. I can fellowship with Christians without going to church. Church is a man made institution. I'm not saying it's unprofitable BUT is is NOT a sin to not go ...

Well, I guess the important point to take away from this scripture is whether or not you are going to do things that please the Lord.

If you love God, you will.

Even if it is not declared a Sin you to not gather together with other Christians.

The Apostles stressed this in the New Testament, because of the positive benefits of Christians meeting together and counseling each other.

So if we choose not to do this, we are actually harming ourselves and probably limiting our walk with God.

[cynwoody]

If someone sells me a pen and I do nude sketches that is no one’s damn business.

All you turkeys who think it's good that Apple stands against porn need to read this:

Apple Denies GOP Candidate’s Bid for iPhone App

If Apple can protect your sorry ass from porn, they can also protect Henry Waxman from you!

[freedumb2003]

>>I am pleased that Jobs made that decision. As a school nurse let me tell you that porn is ruining our American families. It’s not a personal problem any longer. It causes divorce, incest, rape, spousal abuse, and a plethora of other problems. <<

Got Urban Myths? Can you point to any double-blind studies that make the correlation you assert?

And, as I state upthread, if jobs decides FR is a “bad” site, you are OK with him banning it from iPad use?

When you let others choose for you, you give up your ability to choose and discern.

Me, I will choose for myself thank you very much.

[SoConPubbie]

Spent many years studying Christian theology among other fundamentalist religions actually...

Well, that really doesn't answer the original question now, does it?

[freedumb2003]

False dichotomies and straw men doth not arguments make.

[Niteflyr]

So if we choose not to do this, we are actually harming ourselves and probably limiting our walk with God.

All I'm saying is you don't have to gather ceremoniously in a building of brick and stone...:o)

[SoConPubbie]

Sure you did — when you decided someone else (jobs, you, whomever) can choose what another sees, you tossed your lot in with the fascists.

Do you still have the option to buy a competitors products?

Well yes, yes you do.

So, once again, you're wrong. He's only limiting your ability to view porn on HIS products.

[restornu]

What kind of a conservative defends things that debase the foundation of life?

[Niteflyr]

Well, that really doesn't answer the original question now, does it?

What does frequenting a Bible book store have to do with anything? Geez...

[Kellis91789]

Yep. The fact that Jobs has decided the iPad will not support Adobe Flash means 75% of the video content on the Web will not run. That is more important than not having separate Apps for Porn.

Granted, the lack of Flash capability cripples the web browser in terms of viewing a lot of Porn, so the two issues aren’t unrelated.

I thought Apple had learned its lesson about producing crippled products. It may be time to short Apple stock if they have returned to their control-freak roots.

[freedumb2003]

>>If Apple can protect your sorry ass from porn, they can also protect Henry Waxman from you! <<

Excellent — so much for the “boogie man” argument that jobs won’t ban FR if he wakes up and reads something he doesn’t like.

Turning over the ability to decide is the first step to servitude — which is NOT what Christ taught us to be.